[gnso-vi-feb10] RE: SRSU

["Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Milton, you point to gaming.  Can you please tell me how a registry could abuse 
the SRSU exception simply because they are an entity that provide domain name 
registration services.

Again, Neustar is not covered by the restriction as it is not our primary line 
of business.  Just looking out for others.

Also, the reason I support JN2 as opposed to RACK is because I do not believe 
that one class of participants should be discriminated against.  I would be 
hypocritical to support the exclusion of 1 class in an exception.  Also 
remember, we "gave" in to accepting the notion of having an SRSU, so lets 
nottalk here about "giving a little".  You know Neustar has made a lot of 
efforts to give.

Has nothing to do with being a lawyer for Neustar (since we are not exempted).  
It is a matter of principal on a personal level.  

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy


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-----Original Message-----
From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:56 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SRSU


If we open the whole thing up (as I favor) we don't need exceptions. We're not 
opening it up completely. That's the point. ;-) 

Jeff, it just seems to be that you are being too much of a lawyer and looking 
out for the specific, narrow interest of your client (even if neustar has no 
intention of applying for a SRSU, as I suspect). Try thinking about what we 
need to gain agreement for moving forward. Everybody has to give a little here, 
and telling companies that are already deeply involved in DNS that they can't 
start a SRSU in the _initial_ round doesn't seem like giving up much of 
anything to me. OTOH allowing them in raises all kinds of tricky questions 
about gaming and categorization of actors which we'd best avoid in the short 
term. NB: in the short term!!!!

--M

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> I don't understand.  If I want to have a .neustar (which is a trademark
> of ours), and only use it on a corporate level to give addresses out
> like "mail.neustar" or "support.neustar" or give my employees their own
> .neustar address, I need to use a re registrar???  Even though a Google
> or a Yahoo could do it?
> 
> Seriously Milton...your support of an exclusion of registries and
> registrars from legitimately having an SRSU exception defies any sense
> of logic especially coming from someone who favors opening the whole
> thing us.
> 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: Neuman, Jeff; Rosette, Kristina; gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: SRSU
> 
> I don't understand this, Jeff N. It seems uncharacteristically
> unreasonable.
> If we are in an "exceptions" procedure (which is forced on us by
> incumbent registries and registrars who are worried about encroachment
> on their markets by other actors) then clearly a major registry or
> registrar is not an "exception." You are already well-ensconced in the
> dns registration business and don't need exceptions to get into it. This
> is just common sense.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > For the record, I do support (and have always supported), the SRSU
> > exception. But now I must state that if the IPC version is the one
> that
> > is put forward by the VI-WG, I would have to withdraw our support for
> > the exception and would think the other contracted parties would
> follow
> > suit as a matter of principal.   The discrimination of 1-class of
> > applicants for no justifiable reason is not something we should
> endorse.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >