RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

[Jeff Eckhaus <eckhaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mikey,

I know that the issue of sorting and ranking in the presentation has been 
contentious, but we need to forget about what we all want and how we jockey our 
positions to the top since this report is for us to issue and for others to 
read and comment. The GNSO, the Board and the Community.  We need to think 
about how they will read this and understand it.

Almost every poll / results that I see has the first column ranked from highest 
to lowest with the other columns following. (X axis). The favorable, could live 
with  (Y axis) is fine the way it has been presented as it goes from favorable 
to mediocre to negative to did not participate. This is the standard format in 
almost every poll with agree on the far left and disagree on the far right with 
no opinion last.

I know some people are going to go against my suggestion and say we need to 
randomize or draw straws or rock paper scissors, but I believe that in the 
interest in putting out a coherent report we need to stick to standards that 
most consumers of this report will understand

Thanks

Jeff Eckhaus


PS -I may be rusty but would take Berry on in an excel contest. Could do pivot 
tables and vlookups in my sleep :)





From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:14 PM
To: Berry Cobb
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

wow.  Berry is the first person i know who actually knows how to use 
PivotTables in Excel!  that catapults him into Excel Ghod status for me.

dear all.  you're right -- JN2's row got goofed up last night when i typed it 
in.  i checked against Berry's results, and the results on the front tab of the 
spreadsheet i sent (which is also correct), and for the life of me i don't know 
where those numbers came from.  just a late-night error.  anyway, here's what 
the table looks like in the next version of the draft.

Proposal Name

In Favor

Could Live With

Opposed

No Opinion

Did not vote

JN2

12

11

16

2

26

RACK+

12

3

23

2

27

Free Trade

16

4

20

1

26

CAM3

2

12

24

2

27

IPC

1

5

29

5

27

DAGv4

0

11

27

2

27



hm...  on to the ranking sequence...  i can't remember where that sequence came 
from...

so here it is in alphabetical order (i thought about that rAscal Tim's idea of 
using the second letter of the proposals for the alpha sequence, until i 
realized that 3 proposals have "A"s in that second slot)

Proposal Name

In Favor

Could Live With

Opposed

No Opinion

Did not vote

CAM3

2

12

24

2

27

DAGv4

0

11

27

2

27

Free Trade

16

4

20

1

26

IPC

1

5

29

5

27

JN2

12

11

16

2

26

RACK+

12

3

23

2

27


On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Berry Cobb wrote:


Team,

I used Pivot Tables to validate the summary numbers.  Please see the 
pivot_proposal tab.

For some reason, JN2+ numbers were off on "Can Live With", "Oppose", and "No 
Opinion".  All the other numbers seem to be right.


Berry Cobb
Infinity Portals LLC
berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
http://infinityportals.com
866.921.8891

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:48 AM
To: 'Neuman, Jeff'; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

Just checked and apologize, Jeff.  You're right.  JN2 had 11 Can Live Withs.  
Poll results attached.

RA

Ronald N. Andruff
President

RNA Partners, Inc.
220 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10001
+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11

________________________________
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:40 AM
To: Ron Andruff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

The JN2 data is NOT correct.  I cant speak for the others.  Can someone send 
the raw data.  Don't understand how JN2 supporters (and those that can live 
with it) had no duplicates, was the first in terms of overall support, and now 
goes to last.

Something is not right.

Please provide the raw data!

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:25 AM
To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FW: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

Milton's post was using old data with duplicates and the like, Jeff.  The new 
numbers are correct by my read.

RA

Ronald N. Andruff
RNA Partners, Inc.

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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:33 AM
To: Mike O'Connor
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate -- now 
Version 5

Here is what is in line 814 (Of the redline).

Proposal Name

In Favor

Could Live With

Opposed

No Opinion

Did not vote

JN2

12

4

20

1

26

RACK+

12

3

23

2

27

Free Trade

16

4

20

1

26

CAM3

2

12

24

2

27

IPC

1

5

29

5

27

DAGv4

0

11

27

2

27


I think the could live with and "Did not vote" columns are messed up.  I cant 
remember the raw results, but here is what Milton posted on his blog.

Ranked by # supporters
1 Free Trade 16 39%
2 JN2 12 29%
3 RACK+ 11 27%
4 CAM3 2 5%
5 DAGv4 0 0%
Ranked by acceptability
1. JN2 25 61%
2. Free Trade 20 49%
3. RACK+ 15 41%
4. CAM3 14 37%
5. DAGv4 11 29%
Ranked by strength of opposition
1. DAGv4 27
2. CAM3 24
3. RACK+ 23
4. Free Trade 20
5. JN2 15



Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy


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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:27 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate -- now 
Version 5

eh?  V4 and V5 poll results look the same to me.  are we looking at the same 
spot?  right around line 268-273 depending on which draft?

note that the columns have changed from Ron's draft -- his draft followed my 
convention of combining the Support and Live-With numbers in one column.  this 
version breaks them apart and doesn't add them together.  there was a 
sub-thread about that...

mikey


On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Neuman, Jeff wrote:

> Mikey,
> I know you said no content changes, but the poll results are off.....I think 
> columns are mixed up.....
>
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> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:10 AM
> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate -- now 
> Version 5
>
>
> all hail Margie and Marika!
>
> Marika updated the report and fixed a whole bunch of formatting problems in 
> the draft i published last night.  the latest version is Version 5, out on 
> the wiki at;
>
>     
> https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi?initial_report_snapshots
>
> this version is strictly a formatting revision, no content changes.  but it's 
> the one you should use because line-numbers have changed a bit from my draft.
>
> thanks!
>
> mikey
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