RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

["Hammock, Statton" <shammock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

+1 Jeff. That's how people are accustomed to seeing poll results. Watch
the evening news....

 

 

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Eckhaus
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:27 PM
To: Mike O'Connor; Berry Cobb
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

 

Mikey,

 

I know that the issue of sorting and ranking in the presentation has
been contentious, but we need to forget about what we all want and how
we jockey our positions to the top since this report is for us to issue
and for others to read and comment. The GNSO, the Board and the
Community.  We need to think about how they will read this and
understand it.

 

Almost every poll / results that I see has the first column ranked from
highest to lowest with the other columns following. (X axis). The
favorable, could live with  (Y axis) is fine the way it has been
presented as it goes from favorable to mediocre to negative to did not
participate. This is the standard format in almost every poll with agree
on the far left and disagree on the far right with no opinion last. 

 

I know some people are going to go against my suggestion and say we need
to randomize or draw straws or rock paper scissors, but I believe that
in the interest in putting out a coherent report we need to stick to
standards that most consumers of this report will understand

 

Thanks

 

Jeff Eckhaus

 

 

PS -I may be rusty but would take Berry on in an excel contest. Could do
pivot tables and vlookups in my sleep J 

 

 

 

 

 

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:14 PM
To: Berry Cobb
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

 

wow.  Berry is the first person i know who actually knows how to use
PivotTables in Excel!  that catapults him into Excel Ghod status for me.

 

dear all.  you're right -- JN2's row got goofed up last night when i
typed it in.  i checked against Berry's results, and the results on the
front tab of the spreadsheet i sent (which is also correct), and for the
life of me i don't know where those numbers came from.  just a
late-night error.  anyway, here's what the table looks like in the next
version of the draft.

 

Proposal Name

In Favor

Could Live With

Opposed

No Opinion

Did not vote

JN2

12

11

16

2

26

RACK+

12

3

23

2

27

Free Trade

16

4

20

1

26

CAM3

2

12

24

2

27

IPC

1

5

29

5

27

DAGv4

0

11

27

2

27

 

 

hm...  on to the ranking sequence...  i can't remember where that
sequence came from...

 

so here it is in alphabetical order (i thought about that rAscal Tim's
idea of using the second letter of the proposals for the alpha sequence,
until i realized that 3 proposals have "A"s in that second slot)

 

Proposal Name

In Favor

Could Live With

Opposed

No Opinion

Did not vote

CAM3

2

12

24

2

27

DAGv4

0

11

27

2

27

Free Trade

16

4

20

1

26

IPC

1

5

29

5

27

JN2

12

11

16

2

26

RACK+

12

3

23

2

27

        

On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Berry Cobb wrote:

 

Team,

 

I used Pivot Tables to validate the summary numbers.  Please see the
pivot_proposal tab.

 

For some reason, JN2+ numbers were off on "Can Live With", "Oppose", and
"No Opinion".  All the other numbers seem to be right.

 

 

Berry Cobb

Infinity Portals LLC

berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

http://infinityportals.com

866.921.8891

 

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:48 AM
To: 'Neuman, Jeff'; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

 

Just checked and apologize, Jeff.  You're right.  JN2 had 11 Can Live
Withs.  Poll results attached.

 

RA

 

Ronald N. Andruff

President

 

RNA Partners, Inc.

220 Fifth Avenue

New York, New York 10001

+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11

 

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From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:40 AM
To: Ron Andruff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

 

The JN2 data is NOT correct.  I cant speak for the others.  Can someone
send the raw data.  Don't understand how JN2 supporters (and those that
can live with it) had no duplicates, was the first in terms of overall
support, and now goes to last.


Something is not right.


Please provide the raw data!

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy

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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:25 AM
To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

 

Milton's post was using old data with duplicates and the like, Jeff.
The new numbers are correct by my read.

 

RA

 

Ronald N. Andruff

RNA Partners, Inc.

 

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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:33 AM
To: Mike O'Connor
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate
-- now Version 5

 

Here is what is in line 814 (Of the redline).

 

Proposal Name

In Favor

Could Live With

Opposed

No Opinion

Did not vote

JN2

12

4

20

1

26

RACK+

12

3

23

2

27

Free Trade

16

4

20

1

26

CAM3

2

12

24

2

27

IPC

1

5

29

5

27

DAGv4

0

11

27

2

27

 

I think the could live with and "Did not vote" columns are messed up.  I
cant remember the raw results, but here is what Milton posted on his
blog.

 

Ranked by # supporters 
1 Free Trade 16 39%
2 JN2 12 29%
3 RACK+ 11 27%
4 CAM3 2 5%
5 DAGv4 0 0%

Ranked by acceptability
1. JN2 25 61%
2. Free Trade 20 49%
3. RACK+ 15 41%
4. CAM3 14 37%
5. DAGv4 11 29%

Ranked by strength of opposition 
1. DAGv4 27
2. CAM3 24
3. RACK+ 23
4. Free Trade 20
5. JN2 15

 

 

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman

Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:27 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate
-- now Version 5

 

eh?  V4 and V5 poll results look the same to me.  are we looking at the
same spot?  right around line 268-273 depending on which draft?

 

note that the columns have changed from Ron's draft -- his draft
followed my convention of combining the Support and Live-With numbers in
one column.  this version breaks them apart and doesn't add them
together.  there was a sub-thread about that...

 

mikey

 

 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Neuman, Jeff wrote:

 

> Mikey,

> I know you said no content changes, but the poll results are off.....I
think columns are mixed up.....

> 

> Jeffrey J. Neuman

> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy

> 

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> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor

> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:10 AM

> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx

> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate --
now Version 5

> 

> 

> all hail Margie and Marika!

> 

> Marika updated the report and fixed a whole bunch of formatting
problems in the draft i published last night.  the latest version is
Version 5, out on the wiki at;

> 

>
https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi?initial_report_snaps
hots

> 

> this version is strictly a formatting revision, no content changes.
but it's the one you should use because line-numbers have changed a bit
from my draft.

> 

> thanks!

> 

> mikey

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