Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart

[Jothan Frakes <jothan@xxxxxxxxx>]

+1 Spot on.  Take Jeff's suggestion and begin with the Objections column.

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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Richard Tindal <richardtindal@xxxxxx>wrote:

> There's far more votes for 'Opposed'  than anything else ---  so lets put
> that column first as it's the most indicative of opinion
>
> Lets start with 'most opposed' and work down to 'least opposed'.
>
> R
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Jeff Eckhaus wrote:
>
> Mikey,
>
> I know that the issue of sorting and ranking in the presentation has been
> contentious, but we need to forget about what we all want and how we jockey
> our positions to the top since this report is for us to issue and for others
> to read and comment. The GNSO, the Board and the Community.  We need to
> think about how they will read this and understand it.
>
> Almost every poll / results that I see has the first column ranked from
> highest to lowest with the other columns following. (X axis). The favorable,
> could live with  (Y axis) is fine the way it has been presented as it goes
> from favorable to mediocre to negative to did not participate. This is the
> standard format in almost every poll with agree on the far left and disagree
> on the far right with no opinion last.
>
> I know some people are going to go against my suggestion and say we need to
> randomize or draw straws or rock paper scissors, but I believe that in the
> interest in putting out a coherent report we need to stick to standards that
> most consumers of this report will understand
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeff Eckhaus
>
>
> PS –I may be rusty but would take Berry on in an excel contest. Could do
> pivot tables and vlookups in my sleep J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike O'Connor
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:14 PM
> *To:* Berry Cobb
> *Cc:* Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart
>
> wow.  Berry is the first person i know who actually knows how to use
> PivotTables in Excel!  that catapults him into Excel Ghod status for me.
>
> dear all.  you're right -- JN2's row got goofed up last night when i typed
> it in.  i checked against Berry's results, and the results on the front tab
> of the spreadsheet i sent (which is also correct), and for the life of me i
> don't know where those numbers came from.  just a late-night error.  anyway,
> here's what the table looks like in the next version of the draft.
>
>  *Proposal Name*
> *In Favor*
> *Could Live With*
>  *Opposed*
> *No Opinion*
> *Did not vote*
>  JN2
> 12
> 11
> 16
> 2
> 26
> RACK+
> 12
> 3
> 23
> 2
> 27
> Free Trade
> 16
> 4
> 20
> 1
> 26
> CAM3
> 2
> 12
> 24
> 2
> 27
> IPC
> 1
> 5
> 29
> 5
> 27
> DAGv4
> 0
> 11
> 27
> 2
> 27
>
>
> hm...  on to the ranking sequence...  i can't remember where that sequence
> came from...
>
> so here it is in alphabetical order (i thought about that rAscal Tim's idea
> of using the second letter of the proposals for the alpha sequence, until i
> realized that 3 proposals have "A"s in that second slot)
>
>  *Proposal Name*
> *In Favor*
> *Could Live With*
> *Opposed*
> *No Opinion*
> *Did not vote*
>  CAM3
> 2
> 12
> 24
> 2
> 27
>  DAGv4
> 0
> 11
> 27
> 2
> 27
>  Free Trade
> 16
> 4
> 20
> 1
> 26
>  IPC
> 1
> 5
> 29
> 5
> 27
>  JN2
> 12
> 11
> 16
> 2
> 26
>  RACK+
> 12
> 3
> 23
> 2
> 27
>
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Berry Cobb wrote:
>
>
> Team,
>
> I used Pivot Tables to validate the summary numbers.  Please see the
> pivot_proposal tab.
>
> For some reason, JN2+ numbers were off on “Can Live With”, “Oppose”, and
> “No Opinion”.  All the other numbers seem to be right.
>
>
> Berry Cobb
> Infinity Portals LLC
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>
> *From:* owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ron Andruff
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:48 AM
> *To:* 'Neuman, Jeff'; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart
>
> Just checked and apologize, Jeff.  You’re right.  JN2 had 11 Can Live
> Withs.  Poll results attached.
>
> RA
>
> Ronald N. Andruff
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> *From:* Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:40 AM
> *To:* Ron Andruff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart
>
> The JN2 data is NOT correct.  I cant speak for the others.  Can someone
> send the raw data.  Don’t understand how JN2 supporters (and those that can
> live with it) had no duplicates, was the first in terms of overall support,
> and now goes to last.
>
> Something is not right.
>
> Please provide the raw data!
>
>
> *Jeffrey J. Neuman** **
> **Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy*
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> *From:* owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ron Andruff
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:25 AM
> *To:* Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* FW: [gnso-vi-feb10] Poll Chart
>
> Milton’s post was using old data with duplicates and the like, Jeff.  The
> new numbers are correct by my read.
>
> RA
>
> Ronald N. Andruff
> RNA Partners, Inc.
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> *From:* owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Neuman, Jeff
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:33 AM
> *To:* Mike O'Connor
> *Cc:* Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate
> -- now Version 5
>
> Here is what is in line 814 (Of the redline).
>
>  *Proposal Name*
> *In Favor*
>  *Could Live With*
> *Opposed*
>  *No Opinion*
> *Did not vote*
>  JN2
> 12
> 4
> 20
> 1
> 26
> RACK+
> 12
> 3
> 23
> 2
> 27
> Free Trade
> 16
> 4
> 20
> 1
> 26
> CAM3
> 2
> 12
> 24
> 2
> 27
> IPC
> 1
> 5
> 29
> 5
> 27
> DAGv4
> 0
> 11
> 27
> 2
> 27
>
> I think the could live with and “Did not vote” columns are messed up.  I
> cant remember the raw results, but here is what Milton posted on his blog.
>
>
> Ranked by # supporters
> 1 Free Trade 16 39%
> 2 JN2 12 29%
> 3 RACK+ 11 27%
> 4 CAM3 2 5%
> 5 DAGv4 0 0%
>
> Ranked by acceptability
> 1. JN2 25 61%
> 2. Free Trade 20 49%
> 3. RACK+ 15 41%
> 4. CAM3 14 37%
> 5. DAGv4 11 29%
> Ranked by strength of opposition
> 1. DAGv4 27
> 2. CAM3 24
> 3. RACK+ 23
> 4. Free Trade 20
> 5. JN2 15
>
>
>
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: Neuman, Jeff
> Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate --
> now Version 5
>
> eh?  V4 and V5 poll results look the same to me.  are we looking at the
> same spot?  right around line 268-273 depending on which draft?
>
> note that the columns have changed from Ron's draft -- his draft followed
> my convention of combining the Support and Live-With numbers in one column.
> this version breaks them apart and doesn't add them together.  there was a
> sub-thread about that...
>
> mikey
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
>
> > Mikey,
> > I know you said no content changes, but the poll results are off.....I
> think columns are mixed up.....
> >
> > Jeffrey J. Neuman
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> > From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:10 AM
> > To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] New version of the report-draft candidate -- now
> Version 5
> >
> >
> > all hail Margie and Marika!
> >
> > Marika updated the report and fixed a whole bunch of formatting problems
> in the draft i published last night.  the latest version is Version 5, out
> on the wiki at;
> >
> >
> https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi?initial_report_snapshots
> >
> > this version is strictly a formatting revision, no content changes.  but
> it's the one you should use because line-numbers have changed a bit from my
> draft.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > mikey
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