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Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board resolution on Vertical Integration

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  • Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board resolution on Vertical Integration
  • From: Richard Tindal <richardtindal@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:21:14 -0500

It's hard to determine the specific position advocated by GAC.  

When you read specific sentences in isolation they seem to support certain 
positions.   But when the thing is read in totality
it can be contradictory.    For example,  this in the 2nd para -- "Governments 
generally support restrictions on vertical integration 
and cross- ownership as important devices for promoting competition, preventing 
market dominance and averting market distortions". 

Overall (to me)  they seem to me to be advocating exceptions only for smaller, 
Community TLDs.  If they had meant full integration 
except with market power, in any situation,  it would have been an easy thing 
for them to say.

RT



On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Jeff Eckhaus wrote:

> 
> Or we could ask Salop/Wright since the GAC specifically references them:
> 
> preventing market dominance and averting market distortions. The GAC notes in 
> this regard the Salop
>> and Wright report and recognizes that vertical separation may be warranted 
>> where a market participant wields, or may in the future wield, market power
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx <owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx <Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Mon Sep 27 06:46:00 2010
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board resolution on Vertical Integration
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> To Mikey's question:
> 
> Another thing we did in the MaPO group, when we wondered what the GAC meant, 
> we asked.
> 
> a.
> 
> On 27 Sep 2010, at 09:40, Richard Tindal wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I agree with Eric.
>> 
>> Its unclear to me precisely what the GAC meant.  I'm leaning towards the 
>> interpretation that its about exceptions.
>> 
>> RT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Warning. Not the product of a long and considered thinkum.
>>> 
>>> What is "wrong" with ...
>>> 
>>> 0% (Nairobi): It does not match the GAC recommendation that an exception 
>>> exist for registries operated by and for communities located in developing 
>>> economies.
>>> 
>>> 3% (Staff): Ditto.
>>> 
>>> RACK+: There's the no-exception version, and the "++" version that was the 
>>> subject of discussion involving myself and others, which had exception for 
>>> communities. The "+" version shares the defect above. The "++" version has 
>>> the defect that the community exception did not specifically promote 
>>> communities located in developing economies or under-served scripts.
>>> 
>>> JN2: It has exceptions for communities, as well as exceptions for "single 
>>> registrant", and for "orphan". The defect(s) are arguably that the scope of 
>>> the exception promotes brands and fail(ing) standard applications more than 
>>> communities located in developing economies or under-served scripts, _and_, 
>>> after 18 months, the per-registry test of separation as a market protection 
>>> policy.
>>> 
>>> Free Trade: It does not match the GAC recommendation that separation is the 
>>> appropriate tool for market protection, and shares the first defect of JN2.
>>> 
>>> CAM: Ditto. The utility of my commenting on anything from 
>>> Meuller/Palage/Doria is less than zero.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I suppose a key issue is how one reads the GAC recommendation.
>>> 
>>> Are the references to market power informative to the recommendation that 
>>> registries operated by and for communities in developing economies be 
>>> allowed to operate the registrar function, OR are they free standing, and 
>>> applicable to any registry lacking market power?
>>> 
>>> Are the references to national competition authorities illustrative of the 
>>> issues to consider when evaluating a request for vertical integration, or 
>>> are they recommendations to delegations of authority from the Board to some 
>>> national competition authorities?
>>> 
>>> Then there's the hoary old standard, what is meant in this document by 
>>> "market power"? Is it in the CNOBI++ market, whether registry or registrar 
>>> function is considered, or is it in each .NEWDOT market, or is it across 
>>> all similar .NEWDOT instances?
>>> 
>>> See you at call-time.
>>> Eric
>> 
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