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Re: [gtld-council] Outcome of discussion on string checks on Wed30 Aug in Amsterdam
- To: "Ross Rader Rader" <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Bruce Tonkin" <bruce.tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gtld-council] Outcome of discussion on string checks on Wed30 Aug in Amsterdam
- From: marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:42:57 +0000
I think typographically similar may be one term that can be agree on. However,
there is a need to keep users in mind, not just new market opportunities for
registry operators. Proliferation on confusing names may result in a good
revenue source for string provider who will get all the duplicate
registrations, but do little to expand the name space. So, for now, I'm still
into thinking the goal of avoiding 'confusingly similar' is appropriate
whatever we label it. Also, and yes, we will probably need a panel of experts
rather than empowering bd or staff to determine. And some framework will need
to be provided.
Regards,
Marilyn Cade
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:00:53
To:Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:gtld-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gtld-council] Outcome of discussion on string checks on Wed
30 Aug in Amsterdam
Bruce Tonkin wrote:
> The proposal below goes well beyond ICANN's mandate of technical
> determinations and is old-fashioned censorship.
I too would like to see the criteria limited to something within ICANN's
scope. "Confusingly similar" does have the benefit of being settled US
law, but I don't see the value in building a process that requires
dragging US law into the fray as a matter of standard process (i.e. "is
this new string confusingly similar to others? dunno - we need to ask a
judge."). There is also the argument that introducing this criteria
lends credence to the emerging notion that these TLDs are the
intellectual property of the proposer. I don't believe that this is the
case, and I agree with the assessment that we should avoid fostering
that impression through our policies.
You've also made the statement that:
""typo" confusion - is more related to the use of particular keyboards
where it is easy to make a mistake in typing. E.g mistyping "n" for
"m". Ie "tonkim" instead of "tonkin""
I also agree that the term "typo confusion" is inappropriately vague.
Rather, instead of focusing on confusing similarity (legal basis), or
typo-confusion (error based), we should instead use "typographically
similar" as the criteria.
This would allow the process to execute in an objective typographic
context, i.e "that by which something is symbolized or figured..."
Typography has very little to do with the meaning, semantics and
intentions of words and characters, and everything to do with how they look.
Strings that are typographically similar (i.e. TONKIM, TONKIN, T0NKIN,
etc) are easily quantified - each of these strings is typographically
similar to the other. Strings that are "confusingly similar" are not
easily quantified without the involvement of expert legal opinion, which
by definition, is simply an opinion and not a statement of fact - each
of these strings "may" be confusingly similar, but this is just an
opinion, and a judge may be swayed by a superior arguement (which, if he
is, would mean that the string could be deemed suitable for
implementation, leaving registrants holding the bag over whether or not
people are actually being confused or mislead by the string.)
Don't we want to implement simple processes that can be predictably
repeated with very little overhead? Or are we doomed to a future of
specialist committee's that will make subjective determinations about
various parts of the application based on what their opinions "as experts"?
(re: to the point of whether or not a string is rooted in a
typo-confusion, is probably something that should be left for the courts
to figure out. i.e. I would expect Verisign to file for an injunction
and go through the courts if someone proposed a string that they felt
infringed on their trademarks or otherwise violated their intellectual
property rights by misleading their customers, etc....)
-ross
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