[npoc] Re: [EC-NCSG] membership applications

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Robin,

A little immediate feedback:

1) ASCD-noted

2) I disagree with the argument about CPA as the notion you invoke of a
"true non commercial organization" - to use your words - is pretty fuzzy
and arbitrary. If non commercial means  not for profit, then CPA is non
commercial. To avoid these interpretations, NPOC simply  uses the
not-for-profit status as defined per the national legal and regulatory
authorities. It is not culturally appropriate or sensitive  to do otherwise.

3) ITAG - disagree - ITAG had NFP status under Gambian law...

I will get back  to NCSG-EC on the remaining 9 applications in order to
clear the backlog soonest.

Alain

On Wednesday, August 1, 2012, Alain Berranger wrote:

> Thks Robin,
>
> Very useful to have the history from you. With that information, I will
> now work at our end and advise the NCSG-EC of developments as they occur.
>
> Best, Alain
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Robin Gross 
> <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Okay, I've gone and done some research in the archives.  Looking at the
>> list below and checking with the NCSG-EC records:
>>
>> 1.  ASCD was accepted as a NCSG member back in February.
>>
>> 2.  CPA was denied membership in Dec because it was deemed more
>> appropriately an initiative of governments and business working together as
>> opposed to a true noncommercial organization.
>>
>> 3.  ITAG's application was not accepted because it was too commercial of
>> a focus for NCSG membership (Dec. 2011).
>>
>> 4.  We have not seen NCSG membership applications for the other
>> organizations listed below.  So if these groups want to apply now, they
>> should use the online form (or if you have a previous application to NCSG
>> they filed, just submit that).
>>
>> Thank you.  I hope this can help to clear this up so we can move through
>> this group expeditiously.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Robin Gross 
>> <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx');>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alain,
>>>
>>> Some of those orgs were already accepted for NCSG membership before you
>>> joined the EC *(Do you know which ones?)*.  Take a look at the current
>>> NCSG membership list which is available online from a link from NCSG's
>>> membership page 
>>> here<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Membership> so
>>> we do not re-evaluate groups that we have already accepted - *will do.*
>>>
>>> And I don't think we've seen NCSG applications from some of those groups
>>> yet *(which ones please)*.  If there are applications that were filed
>>> and not addressed, just provide a link to that application (it should be on
>>> this email list where applications go) or have the group use the online
>>> form so we can get a NCSG application from them. *With our proposal, we
>>> are trying to avoid a second application from the original NPOC one. I
>>> think this proposal holds for at least some of the pending applicants.*
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:m
>>>
>>> […]
>>>
>>> These 12 pending applications date back to before the current elected
>>> mandate of the NPOC-EC:
>>>
>>> AL AWAEL, Education and Learning - Algeria
>>> ASCD - United States
>>> American Cancer Society (ACS) - United States
>>> British Red Cross Society - United Kingdom
>>> Center for Youth Empowerment & Leadership (Cyel) - Kenya
>>> Child Protection Alliance (CPA) - The Gambia
>>> Corporacion Makia Asesoria Internacional - Colombia
>>> Graduate Management Admission Council (GMAC) - United States
>>> Information Technology Association of The Gambia - The Gambia
>>> Institute de Medicina Tropical Alexader Von Humboldt UPCH - Peru
>>> Internet Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter - Trinidad & Tobago
>>> PAK Education Society (PES) / Pakistan Development Network (PDN) -
>>> Pakistan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger