[npoc] Re: Important - adding new NPOC Vice Chair to NCSG lists

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Cintra,

Good reminder! no follow-up action item ever emerged from that...
confirming basic disagreement or work overload or a combination thereof.

These issues were since discussed before and in Toronto and essentially
still need resolving. You may want to read the Toronto NCSG-EC transcript
on the NCSG ICANN wiki. There is (at least) one mistake on that
transcript... One of the long intervention credited to Klaus, was actually
mine..but it does not change the essence.

Re the NPOC web site on the membership page, we also did not folllow-up and
it needs to be updated - let's discuss at our November call.

..and of course, Edward (sic!) on the transcript should read Eduardo and
Marie-laurie (sic!) should read Marie-laure... Ha! the true
internationalization of ICANN has its challenges (...and Sébastien
Bachollet tells me off because I do not use French during ICANN
meetings!!!)

Robin, while I have you, I will complete the next round of my due diligence
on current new NCSG membership applications tomorrow. I am waiting for some
responses from a few of the applicants NPOC recruited. Has Rafik completed
his first round and has Milton completed his second round?

Best, Alain


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Cintra Sooknanan <
cintra.sooknanan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Robin,
>
> I appreciate your work in streamlining this process so that delays are
> avoided, I hope we can collectively resolve such issues soonest so that we
> may spend our time constructively discussing policy matters.
>
> In this regard, perhaps you can also give an update on (or direct to the
> resolution of) the other outstanding issues related to the NCSG online form
> and sign up process (detailed at
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/npoc/msg00066.html) ?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Cintra Sooknanan
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Cintra.  I've asked Brenden to add you to the list as an observer
>> in the interim while we deal with the pending NCSG membership application.
>>
>> We won't be able to make a habit of accepting people onto the mailing
>> list before their application is approved, so constituencies need to be
>> clear to their recruits up front that step one is filling out a NCSG
>> membership application.  After acceptance into NCSG, members are free to
>> join 0, 1, 2, or 3 constituencies within NCSG, are added to the NCSG
>> mailing list, join working groups, etc.  Hopefully new applicants won't
>> have the prior misunderstanding as previous applicants have had and will
>> use the proper process going forward.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
>>
>> Dear Robin,
>>
>> It is heartening to know that ISOC-TT's application is being dealt with
>> forthwith, thank you for taking the time and effort to review and
>> acknowledge receipt.
>>
>> I confirm that my appointment as NPOC vice-chair was in keeping with
>> NPOC's procedure and am guided by Alain's response regarding the status of
>> the NPOC representative on the NCSG Executive Committee. In fact I had not
>> seen any discussion by NPOC's Executive about the latter so I am grateful
>> for the clarification and apologise for any confusion caused.
>>
>> Also since this is really procedural, due to be resolved shortly and not
>> a substantive matter, may I be added to the NCSG mailing lists as an
>> observer in the interim?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Cintra Sooknanan
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Cintra,
>>>
>>> I spent a good bit over time over the weekend looking for an application
>>> from ISOC-TT to join the NCSG and couldn't find one.  I suspect that there
>>> was some confusion from NPOC leaders as to the proper process for joining
>>> NCSG and so NCSG membership forms were never filled out for ISOC-TT.
>>>
>>> One must first join NCSG.  And then after acceptance to NCSG, does one
>>> apply for membership in a constituency such as NPOC and/or NCUC.  So
>>> joining NPOC first is backwards and has led to a lot of confusion from NPOC
>>> applicants who thought they were automatically members of NCSG simply by
>>> joining NPOC.
>>>
>>> I'm very excited to see you have been appointed NPOC-VC and glad you
>>> wish to become more engaged.  Now that there is a membership application
>>> submitted for your organization, it should not take much time to approve it
>>> and welcome ISOC-TT into the NCSG.
>>>
>>> On the issue of your possible appointment to NCSG-EC, Alain told me last
>>> week you were not appointed to NCSG-EC, so there seems to be some confusion
>>> about that (I'll forward that email to you separately).
>>>
>>> Hopefully we can clear this all up in the next few days and I'm glad for
>>> the opportunity to be working more closely with you in the coming months.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any further questions on this or need any
>>> further clarification.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robin
>>> * *
>>> Perhaps, there was a hiccup with the ISOC-TT Application to NCSG, to be
>>> sure I have filled out
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Membership+Application 
>>> for
>>> review.
>>>
>>> I have not had any reply from you regarding my email below, but in the
>>> interim could you please ensure that I am added to the NCSG mailing list
>>> and the NCSG Executive Mailing list (as the NPOC representative in place of
>>> Lori).
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your early feedback on these matters. I am happy to
>>> respond to any questions or comments you may have.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Cintra Sooknanan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Cintra Sooknanan <
>>> cintra.sooknanan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>>
>>>> Hope you had a very comfortable return from the ICANN Toronto meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Please see the email below. Is there any reason I can not be added to
>>>> the NCSG mailing list? Who should we request this addition to, if Glen is
>>>> not the administrator of this list?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your guidance,
>>>>
>>>> Cintra Sooknanan
>>>>  Chair
>>>> Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:37 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: NPOC - adding new Vice Chair to NPOC-EC list
>>>> To: Cintra Sooknanan <cintra.sooknanan@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Dear Cintra, ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> this has been done for the NPOC list, but I do not administer the NCSG
>>>> mailing list.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.****
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Gmen****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Glen de Saint Géry****
>>>>
>>>> GNSO Secretariat****
>>>>
>>>> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx****
>>>>
>>>> http://gnso.icann.org****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Cintra Sooknanan [mailto:cintra.sooknanan@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> *Sent:* mercredi 24 octobre 2012 22:42
>>>>
>>>> *To:* Glen de Saint Géry
>>>> *Cc:* Eduardo Monge; Niran Beharry; Tracy F. Hackshaw; Alain Berranger
>>>> *Subject:* Re: NPOC - adding new Vice Chair to NPOC-EC list****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Dear Glen, ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Please note that I am the primary representative for ISOC-TT on NPOC
>>>> and Mr. Niran Beharry is the secondary. Both Niran Beharry and Tracy
>>>> Hackshaw should be added to the NPOC Voice and NCSG Mailing list as
>>>> observers of ISOC-TT. ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your prompt assistance in fulfilling this request. ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Regards****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Cintra Sooknanan****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Eduardo Monge <
>>>> eduardo.monge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Dear Glenn,****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> I would like to request that  Cintra Sooknanan of the Trinidad & Tobago 
>>>> ISOC Chapter, recently appointed NPOC´s acting Vice-Chair, be  added to 
>>>> the NPOC-Executive Committee mailing list at 
>>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/npoc/ ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Her email address is cintra.sooknanan@xxxxxxxxx ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Regards,****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Eduardo Monge****
>>>>
>>>> NPOC Communications Committee Chair****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IP JUSTICE
>>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> IP JUSTICE
>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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