Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before Sao Paulo?

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Actually they fixed it so I could join. So lets keep an open mind.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
<vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before
Sao Paulo?


> Chris and all,
>
>   I think it's great regarding your wiki.  And yes, anything from a
> stakeholder and/or user created that is not officially inside the
> ICANN structure has been and remains "invalid" as far as the
> ICANN BoD, staff, ect. is considered.  Of course such an
> attitude is illogical, and as such, nullifies ICANN's credibility
> accordingly and seemingly ever more broadly.
>
> kidsearch wrote:
>
> > I made a wiki. I'm considered invalid. No surprise. Anything created
about
> > or for discussion of new gTLDs the average user has always been invalid.
> >
> > Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> > http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address"
> > <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements
before
> > Sao Paulo?
> >
> > > George and all,
> > >
> > >   ICANN has NO credibility now and hasn't with the public or
> > > registrants/stakeholders/users for a very long time. So it comes as
> > > little or no great surprise to myself, our members, and any even
> > > casual observer of the ICANN's BoD and staff that they again
> > > are seeking to ignore their own bylaws as well as the stakeholders
> > > they purport to serve.
> > >
> > > George Kirikos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > According to the agenda for the November 22, 2006 Board meeting:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.icann.org/minutes/
> > > >
> > > > It includes the following items:
> > > >
> > > > * Proposed Approval of new .BIZ Registry Agreement
> > > > * Proposed Approval of new .INFO Registry Agreement
> > > > * Proposed Approval of new .ORG Registry Agreement
> > > >
> > > > This appears to ignore the GNSO Council resolution from September:
> > > >
> > > > http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#200609
> > > >
> > > > "To request the Board to delay any decision on the .biz .info and
.org
> > > > agreements until the ICANN Board meeting after the Sao Paolo ICANN
> > > > meetings 2006 and to take into account the current outcome of the
> > > > PDPFeb06 task force at that time."
> > > >
> > > > And as I noted in a prior message:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://forum.icann.org/lists/revised-biz-info-org-agreements/msg00013.html
> > > >
> > > > it ignores the Bylaws that mention "an in-person public forum shall
> > > > also be held for discussion of any proposed policies as described in
> > > > Section 6(1)(b) of this Article, prior to any final Board action."
and
> > > > that "in those cases where the policy action affects public policy
> > > > concerns, to request the opinion of the Governmental Advisory
> > > > Committee".
> > > >
> > > > Can the Board provide any good reason why they are rushing through
> > > > approval of these badly conceived contracts, despite the
overwhelming
> > > > opposition of the public? This illustrates why folks are cynical
about
> > > > ICANN. Unless these contracts are defeated, to reflect the bottom up
> > > > consensus, any remaining shred of credibility that ICANN's Board
might
> > > > have had will be lost.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > George Kirikos
> > > > http://www.kirikos.com/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > >    Abraham Lincoln
> > >
> > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> > >
> > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > ===============================================================
> > > Updated 1/26/04
> > > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> > > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> > > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >  Registered Email addr with the USPS
> > > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Registered Email addr with the USPS
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827
>
>