Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before Sao Paulo?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris and all,

  So "YOU" could join.  Well that's great, but only for "YOU",
Chris.  And what exactly has been FIXED for "YOU" to join?
In addition is the "FIX" in only for certain individuals?  Are
you getting my drift here, Chris?

kid search wrote:

> Actually they fixed it so I could join. So lets keep an open mind.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
> <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before
> Sao Paulo?
>
> > Chris and all,
> >
> >   I think it's great regarding your wiki.  And yes, anything from a
> > stakeholder and/or user created that is not officially inside the
> > ICANN structure has been and remains "invalid" as far as the
> > ICANN BoD, staff, ect. is considered.  Of course such an
> > attitude is illogical, and as such, nullifies ICANN's credibility
> > accordingly and seemingly ever more broadly.
> >
> > kidsearch wrote:
> >
> > > I made a wiki. I'm considered invalid. No surprise. Anything created
> about
> > > or for discussion of new gTLDs the average user has always been invalid.
> > >
> > > Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> > > http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address"
> > > <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:02 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements
> before
> > > Sao Paulo?
> > >
> > > > George and all,
> > > >
> > > >   ICANN has NO credibility now and hasn't with the public or
> > > > registrants/stakeholders/users for a very long time. So it comes as
> > > > little or no great surprise to myself, our members, and any even
> > > > casual observer of the ICANN's BoD and staff that they again
> > > > are seeking to ignore their own bylaws as well as the stakeholders
> > > > they purport to serve.
> > > >
> > > > George Kirikos wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > According to the agenda for the November 22, 2006 Board meeting:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.icann.org/minutes/
> > > > >
> > > > > It includes the following items:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .BIZ Registry Agreement
> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .INFO Registry Agreement
> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .ORG Registry Agreement
> > > > >
> > > > > This appears to ignore the GNSO Council resolution from September:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#200609
> > > > >
> > > > > "To request the Board to delay any decision on the .biz .info and
> .org
> > > > > agreements until the ICANN Board meeting after the Sao Paolo ICANN
> > > > > meetings 2006 and to take into account the current outcome of the
> > > > > PDPFeb06 task force at that time."
> > > > >
> > > > > And as I noted in a prior message:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/revised-biz-info-org-agreements/msg00013.html
> > > > >
> > > > > it ignores the Bylaws that mention "an in-person public forum shall
> > > > > also be held for discussion of any proposed policies as described in
> > > > > Section 6(1)(b) of this Article, prior to any final Board action."
> and
> > > > > that "in those cases where the policy action affects public policy
> > > > > concerns, to request the opinion of the Governmental Advisory
> > > > > Committee".
> > > > >
> > > > > Can the Board provide any good reason why they are rushing through
> > > > > approval of these badly conceived contracts, despite the
> overwhelming
> > > > > opposition of the public? This illustrates why folks are cynical
> about
> > > > > ICANN. Unless these contracts are defeated, to reflect the bottom up
> > > > > consensus, any remaining shred of credibility that ICANN's Board
> might
> > > > > have had will be lost.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > George Kirikos
> > > > > http://www.kirikos.com/
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > > >    Abraham Lincoln
> > > >
> > > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > > > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> > > >
> > > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > > ===============================================================
> > > > Updated 1/26/04
> > > > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > > > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> > > > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Registered Email addr with the USPS
> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >
> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827