Re: [soac-mapo] Combined draft charter redline for your review

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I wasn't looking to for us to join the GAC list, but for GAC members to join 
this list.  

Though of course I am in favor of all ICANN lists, one day, having open 
archives.

And I am fine with this being the way it is, as long as we understand the way 
of it.  And I do not wish in any way to belittle the importance of Frank and 
Heather being on this list and being ready to discuss this issue with us.

a.

On 22 Aug 2010, at 18:13, Marilyn Cade wrote:

>  I am okay with this approach.  I am not in any way thinking it appropriate 
> to subscribe non GAC members to the GAC list. The BC doesn't have anyone but 
> BC members on our list, although we have an archive for routine  
> communications. And, as we all know, the GNSO Council, charged with policy 
> management, also has an exclusive list -- I can read it, but I can't post to 
> it, since I am not a Councilor. :-) 
> The good news for me is that the GAC is participating in the discussions. 
> 
> I look forward to tomorrow's call. 
> 
> I will look again at the updated ToR, but it was looking good to me with the 
> edits made. Let's advance this work, so that there is something to say! 
> 
> Marilyn 
> 
> 
> > Subject: RE: [soac-mapo] Combined draft charter redline for your review
> > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:01:23 -0400
> > From: cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: avri@xxxxxxx; soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > 
> > Avri,
> > 
> > I think it is fair to assume that the GAC is not going to let non-GAC 
> > members join their list. I cannot speak for the GAC, but I believe that the 
> > quickest way to ensure that all GAC members had the opportunity to see the 
> > Rec6 CWG discussion was to subscribe their distribution list in the Rec6 
> > CWG. It doesn't seem to me that it would have been appropriate to 
> > automatically register every GAC member on the Rec6 CWG list; that is a 
> > decision each individual GAC member has to make.
> > 
> > So I think the answer to your question is 'yes', they can see our 
> > discussion but we cannot see theirs except for any that occurs on our list.
> > 
> > Frank/Glen - Please correct me if I have characterized any of this 
> > incorrectly.
> > 
> > Chuck 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Avri Doria
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:54 PM
> > > To: soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [soac-mapo] Combined draft charter redline for your review
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Does this mean they can see our discussions, but we can't see theirs?
> > > Why do we need separate lists in this multistakeholder environment?
> > > 
> > > a.
> > > 
> > > On 22 Aug 2010, at 14:14, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I know for a fact that Heather Dryden and Frank March are on the list
> > > and quite sure that the GAC distribution list is on the list so all GAC
> > > members should be able to see the list traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Glen/Gisella - would you please send the list of subscribers?
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > > From: Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > > > Cc: Liz Gasster <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx>; soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx <soac-
> > > mapo@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sun Aug 22 10:57:19 2010
> > > > Subject: Re: [soac-mapo] Combined draft charter redline for your
> > > review
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone from GAC even on this list? Chuck or Liz, can you clarify
> > > if this list includes GAC members, and if so, who?
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to "out" anyone who wishes to remain anonymous, but
> > > quite frankly the entire point of stopping for a month was to wait for
> > > the GAC to show up. Their members are critical participants, because
> > > the previous Rec. 6 foundered on their objection. So it's absolutely
> > > critical to have their involvement. If not, it's a sterile echo-
> > > chamber exercise.
> > > >
> > > > Antony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thank you very much for doing this Liz. This will be very helpful.
> > > >>
> > > >> I note though that all the contributors to date have either been
> > > from the GNSO or ALAC . It would be extremely helpful if some members
> > > of the GAC or ccNSO commented on the edits even if it is strictly in
> > > your personal capacity. If there is no disagreement with the proposed
> > > edits, fine; if there is, we cannot deal with them if we are not aware
> > > of them.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chuck
> > > >>
> > > >> From: owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Liz Gasster
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:47 AM
> > > >> To: soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: [soac-mapo] Combined draft charter redline for your review
> > > >>
> > > >> All,
> > > >>
> > > >> Attached please find a redline edit that should encompass the edits
> > > by Milton, Robin, Avri, Michele, Marilyn, Stéphane and Richard. Please
> > > use this version for further edits.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also, please let me know if I've missed anything.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks! Liz
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> >