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Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Financial instrument
- To: "SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx" <soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Financial instrument
- From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:14:34 -0400
Eric,
Yes, I understand it it the Continued Operations Instrument.
a.
On 1 Oct 2010, at 19:41, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
> On 10/1/10 3:27 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> This would be really good material for one of the FAQ entries.
>>
>> E.g. Why should the security period be lowered from 3 years
>
>
> It is not a "security period", it is a "continuity period", and the purpose
> that requires 36 months is not clearly identified. Richard made a guess at it
> -- time required for a registrant to re-brand in some other name space. I was
> unconvinced since there is no possible alternative to re-brand from one
> community's associated name space to another community's associated name
> space.
>
>
>> I think it might make the recommendation more complicated and make the
>> recommendation would get lost in the discussion.
>
>
> We all have our thoughts. If you prefer to offer a simple alternative to the
> continuity instrument as-is, fine. What I wrote was to recap the mail and
> vacation-interrupted conversation I had with Karla, and to explain that
> "continuity" is quite different for applicants in-isolation than for
> applicants in-cooperation.
>
> One of our fundamental issues is whether our framework assumes (and promotes)
> needs-qualified applicants acting in isolation from each other or assumes
> (and promotes) needs-qualified applicants acting in cooperation with each
> other.
>
> CORE, Afilias, CoCCA, are all instances of cooperation in the registry and
> registrar markets, as are ARIN, RIPE, APNIC, and LACNIC, and at some level of
> abstraction, ICANN itself, as cooperation among the SOs.
>
> If there is consensus to offer a continuity instrument related proposal, then
> all the rational drops away and one of us, you or me or someone else, simply
> writes the declarative prose proposal.
>
> Eric
>
>
>> a.
>>
>> On 1 Oct 2010, at 15:02, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Tijani, Avri,
>>>
>>> This (Tijani's variation on Richard's suggestion) lowers the months at some
>>> cost per month from 36 to 6.
>>>
>>> What this doesn't do is provide a rational basis for the cost per month.
>>>
>>> There is a fixed costs, the monthly reports to ICANN being one.
>>>
>>> There are the variable costs, the minimum power, cooling, connectivity,
>>> computational capacity, office space and staffing, for operations "during
>>> continuity".
>>>
>>> My first claim (really a CORE operational observation) is that both the
>>> fixed and variable costs are so small that an operator providing back-end
>>> services to a very few registries would write off the overhead of both
>>> costs.
>>>
>>> So, where a few applicants share facilities (line 253 Avri), the proper
>>> amount the applicants should deposit as a continuity instrument is zero.
>>>
>>> My second claim is that where two or more registries being "continuity",
>>> there is only nominal cost for each additional registry being "in
>>> continuity". The incremental cost of doing the N+1 monthly report to ICANN
>>> is nominal. The incremental cost of operations is nominal.
>>>
>>> So, as long as some of the applicants who form shared facilities (again,
>>> line 253) are not "in continuity", there is no additional cost from sharing
>>> applicants going "into continuity".
>>>
>>> Now suppose the Board rejects this too, and the applicants must all set
>>> aside some amount representing N months (possibly 36) at a burn rate the
>>> Board finds credible.
>>>
>>> What happens when an registry commences "continuity" operations?
>>>
>>> Does the current operator draw from the fund or does the fund go to some
>>> other operator, who will then draw from the fund, until the fund is
>>> exhausted, or possibly until the operations are profitable, and the
>>> operator (original or subsequent) replenishes the continuity fund?
>>>
>>> Is this a "contingency" capability, or is it a transfer of resources from
>>> an applicant meeting the "needs" criteria to an operator, perhaps one of
>>> VGRS, AF, NS, CORE, ... that does not meet the "needs" criteria, which is
>>> triggered at any time ICANN, or a market dominated by VGRS, AF, NS, CORE,
>>> ..., causes small registries early in their operational history to have
>>> revenues that don't meet expenses for a quarter?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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