RE: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Discussion of Financial criteria and how to set them

[<tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxx>]

Thank you Alan for your comments. 

It was this kind of discussion I wanted to initiate by raising the point
about 3.2 of the second Milestone report.

I totally agree with you that objective criteria are not sufficient, and
that a case by case inquiry should be undertaken to verify the real need of
the applicant and prevent gaming. But the absence of objective criteria will
lead to the totally subjective judgment with all kind of complaisance. I
think we must avoid both gaming and complaisance, and this is possible if we
combine objective criteria and specific inquiry for each applicant.    

As for your interrogation whether we prioritize avoiding gaming or missing
really deserving applicants, I will prefer to avoid giving support to
applicants that are not needy (as meant by the resolution 20) even if the
tight filter will drop some “more or less” needy ones. My greatest concern
is that all the available resources will go to the real needy applicants and
ensure that developing countries will not be excluded from the new gTLD
program.

Yes, net worth, net annual profit, annual revenues, financial report, bank
statement, etc. were put on the table as objective elements of evaluation. I
think we should keep them till we find better ones, 

Finally, the process has to be manageable, and any process will not be
perfect. I believe that the complexity of the system will give negative
result. I do think that an imperfect system is much better than a complex
one that can lead to an unpredictable result.

 

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Tijani BEN JEMAA

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Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations

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De : owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De la part de Alan Greenberg
Envoyé : mardi 26 juillet 2011 06:14
À : JAS
Objet : [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Discussion of Financial criteria and how to
set them

 

 

Sorry for not getting this out earlier, but it was a stretch to get it done
now.

 

I have added these comments to

 
<https://community.icann.org/display/jaswg/Subgroup+1+Qualifications+%28was+
A+B%29>
https://community.icann.org/display/jaswg/Subgroup+1+Qualifications+%28was+A
+B%29. 

That page already has a lot of the specific things that we want incorporated
into the criteria and I have not had the time to try to merge all of them
into the new test. But that can be done once there is general agreements.

 

Alan

 

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Discussion of the criteria by which an applicant will be judged worthy of
support.

 

Members of the JAS WG did not have the skills or experience to specifically
define criteria. ICANN does not likely have the skills in-house either, but
presumably there are organizations that do. The skills do reside in a number
of international donors, and in development cooperation groups of many of
the governments that participate in the GAC.

 

  It was agreed that there are a number of goals to be met by the criteria.

 

  - Financial need is a key. Other missing resources can be outsourced if
money is not a limitation.

 

  - Criteria should be as objective as possible, but it is clear that
ultimately judgment calls will need to be made, and the criteria should
reflect that.

 

  -  The WG explored a variety of specific criteria such as net worth of the
applicant, net annual profit and annual revenues [add any more here that we
have looked at], but found all lacking in that they could be relatively
easily gamed or would eliminate certain applicants who should otherwise be
supportable.

 

  - The intent of this support is to provide initial support for an
otherwise viable application. [Note: this does not mean that we should
ignore lowering the operational costs, but that should be in a separate
section.]

 

  - Support should not exceed XX% of the fees due from ineligible
applicants.

 

  - The actual judging of financial need and deciding whether an applicant
meets the established criteria to be supported should be outsourced to those
who make similar judgment calls with respect to developing economy requests
(is "developing economy" the term we are

using??) on a regular basis. This will also serve to distance ICANN from the
actual decision and the politically dangerous ground.

 

  For discussion:

 

  - We do not want gaming, but we also do not want to miss really deserving
applicants. We need to decide which of these is the more important goal,
since any set of criteria will likely tend to allow either false positives
or false negatives.

 

  - Similarly, there will be many profiles of prospective applicants. 

If we want the overall criteria to fit all of them, it may become far too
unwieldy and impractical. Are we willing to sacrifice some classes of
applicant to allow a more manageable process.

 

 

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