[soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from Joint SO/AC WG on New gTLD Applicant Support

[Gisella Gruber-White <Gisella.Gruber-White@xxxxxxxxx>]

>  Karla Valente:welcome to the JAS WG September 13 call
>  Carlton Samuels:Hi Karla, waiting for call from Veronica
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Kurt Pritz has joined the call
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Carlton has now joined
>  Carlton Samuels:Hi everyone
>  CLO:We agreed to the appendix  for attendance already aj dhappy to have
>an inbedded hyperlink yo a wiki page spread sheet  for details  on per
>meetings  etc.,
>  Krista Papac:+1 Alan!
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Andrew Mack has joined the call
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Sebastien Bachollet has joined the call
>  Evan Leibovitch:Truth be told, this is completely backwards.....
>adressing the comments to the interim document AFTER the final one is
>almost completely locked down.
>  avri:Evan, I disagree, we should be answering how we repsonded.  we
>should not be changing the components of the final report.
>  avri:we did discuss the comments at an eairier time.
>  Alan Greenberg:Avri, the issue is that if we had formally reviewed the
>comments prior to finalization, we might well have read something we had
>not thought of and changed the result. BUt it is sadly too late for that
>now.
>  Evan Leibovitch:oh well. water under bridge
>  avri:but we had read them and did act on them.
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS WG notes the support for the
>process and thanks the respondents.
>  Alan Greenberg:Then it is unfortunate that we did not document that
>discussion...
>  avri:that is what we need to do now.  document what we did and why we
>did it.
>  avri:the what we did is clear from the final draft.  the why is easy in
>the case we did what they wanted.  harder when we didn't - that requires
>recall.
>  avri:what we can't do is start recosidering everyhting, or even
>anything.
>  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I agree with Cheryl. Never heard a discussion
>about different time frames; Did I miss it?
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS WG has briefly discussed timing
>and, in general, agreed this could be an issue, however outside the WG¹s
>scope. The timing was mainly left to ICANN staff.
>  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok. excellent
>  Seth Greene:Carlton and Rafik, with your permission, Rob and I will
>leave the call now in order to continue polishing the Report -- to ensure
>getting it to the Co-Chairs asap today.  Thanks very much, and you will
>hear from us later today.  Thank you all for what has been a productive
>drafting effort.
>  Carlton Samuels:Very well,Seth.  Thanks to both Rob and you
>  Rafik:@Seth&Rob thank you very much :)
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS WG, in its Final Report, is
>proposing a parallel process.
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS WG thanks the respondents and is
>thankful for the Board for this seed money. JAS WG agrees that there
>should be more the 2 million and this is why JAS WG final recommendations
>incorporate the fees decrease proposal. Moreover, the Jas WG recommends a
>foundation where this seed money serves as a start and more funds are
>raised in the future. See final report for detailed proposal.
>  avri:yep that works for me Karla.
>  CLO:Yes the last (3rd) comment is out of scope for JAS-WG  IMO
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS WG thanks the respondents and is
>thankful for the ICANN Board for allocating this ³seed² money. JAS WG
>agrees that there should be more than $2 million and this is why in its
>Final Report recommendations suggest fees to be decreased. Moreover, the
>JAS WG recommends a foundation where this seed money serves as a start
>and more funds are raised in the future. See final report for detailed
>proposal.
>  CLO:Ok  for the draft Karla has proposed
>  CLO:on audio only for a short while
>  Karla Valente:The campaign outreach comment is welcomed, but the JAS WG
>believes it is outside the WG¹s scope.
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Seth and Rob have disconnected
>  Karla Valente:The best practices comment, the JAS WG recognized that
>there will be extensive help required and having templates, best
>practices and other guidelines are good suggestions. The overall concept
>supported, nonetheless, this type of help should come from expert
>community members and not ICANN.
>  Karla Valente:Best practices comment: the JAS WG recognized that there
>will be extensive help required and having templates, best practices and
>other guidelines are good suggestions. The overall concept supported,
>nonetheless, this type of help should come from expert community members
>and not ICANN. There are various suggestions made in the Final report to
>the type of community support that could be used. JAS WG encourages the
>community to come to the aid of JAS qualified applicants in the
>non-financial assistance mechanism.
>  Rafik:the communication already started
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS agrees this is an issue;
>however, control over this issue is outside the JAS WG¹s scope. JAS WG
>encourages the community, with its knowledgeable members, to help with
>outreach and created local awareness as much as possible.
>  Karla Valente:The JAS WG believes ICANN should provide support to local
>communities to assist with outreach activities.
>  Karla Valente:JAS WG response: The JAS agrees this is an issue;
>however, control over this issue is outside the JAS WG¹s scope. JAS WG
>encourages the community, with its knowledgeable members, to help with
>outreach and created local awareness as much as possible. The JAS WG
>believes ICANN should provide support to local communities to assist with
>outreach activities. The Final Report is describing in more details the
>concept of a staff community partnership.
>  Seth Greene:Hello, Rob and I are returning to the call.
>  Alan Greenberg:If Rob and Seth are back, and there are report issues to
>be discussed, we should focus on them in the last 15 minutes of the call.
>  Karla Valente:@ Avri: thank you!
>  Alan Greenberg:Yup.
>  Karla Valente:looking forward to working with you another 6 hours this
>week ;-)
>  avri:likewise Karla
>  CLO:I do Not support removal of the para  OR to remao silent on the
>issue raised by GAC
>  Evan Leibovitch:It should be reminded that the GAC was made jointly
>with one of the JAS sponsorsing organizations. It's also the ALAC
>position now too.
>  Evan Leibovitch:"GAC _statement_"
>  Evan Leibovitch:IE, it's a mistake to paint this as GAC vs JAS.
>  Tijani:ok, no problem
>  Evan Leibovitch:+1 Seth
>  CLO:corrwct  No change
>  avri:if there was any change, i would recommend replacing the word
>recommend with advice in the last sentence.
>  Krista Papac:+1 alan
>  avri:as this indicates that they won't be making a recommendation to us
>at this point, but will be giving advice to the Board
>  avri:but i am not arguing for this, just thorwing it into the confusion
>- albeit late - i am a slow thinker sometimes.
>  Evan Leibovitch:Doing the webinar English only means that it's not
>necessarily targeted at the economies that could most benefit from what
>the WG is doing. This -- more than many other efforts -- is worth of i18n
>treatment
>  Rafik:we can organize other wbeinar
>  Rafik:why not tryin ones in differnet languages
>  Krista Papac:bye everyone
>  avri:Ok, i can be volunteered for the Italian and Hebrew webinars.
>  CLO:if there is a choice  I'd prefer to do additional  meetings  on the
>Tue  time slot  and NOT the Friday one where possible
>  Rafik:@avri u think italy is among developing economy regardless their
>financial crisis
>  avri:CLO you mean the Saturday slot?
>  Rafik:@clo indeed no more friday
>  Rafik:just one callper week
>  CLO:Well it is  Friday  midnight + foe me  yes
>  Rafik:just one callper week[
>  avri:hey we are recruiting people who can help as well as people who
>need help.
>  avri:we need to make outreach to people with bags of money as well as
>people with bags of talents and skills
>  CLO:Not that I have not "enjouyed spendong so many Friday Nights with
>you all of course ;-)
>  Rafik:@avri well sure why not in japanese which is one of language used
>by icann for many translation ;)
>  Rafik:@clo I want my social life in friday back :D
>  avri:i can't be volunteered for the one in Japanese.  i was only
>mentioning the langauges i was comfortable with.  You can do the one in
>Japanese.
>  CLO:I can do Australian (limited audeince though)
>  avri:CLO: why there are displaced australinas everywhere i look.  the
>Australian disapora is huge.
>  CLO:and  may not male it through many 'censors'
>  CLO:sorry  MALE it through many censors :-)
>  avri:lol
>  CLO:should  reF  make IT THROUGH
>  CLO:@ Avri  yup and we all rspond  to a G'day mate
>  CLO:OK  Bye  for now then...