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[soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Final Presentation for webinar - please see attached - 1 hour from now to make changes.

  • To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>, Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>, "SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx" <SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Final Presentation for webinar - please see attached - 1 hour from now to make changes.
  • From: Karla Valente <karla.valente@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:46:46 -0700

Dear Avri, Alan,

Please see attached the revised presentation. If I understood correctly the 
latest exchange of e-mails, I am not to reorder the slides and Avri will 
present the slides 20-21 (now 21-22) after adding the slide requested by Alan.
If this understanding is not correct, let me know until 6:00pm (Pacific) 
otherwise I will upload in Adobe the presentation as it.

Thank you so much for your feedback.

Kind regards, 

Karla Valente
Director, gTLD Registry Programs
Mobile:  +1 310 936 4639  


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:53 AM
To: Avri Doria; SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] correction was Re: [] Re: Additional 
comments on PPT presentation for Webinar


Just for the record, I have no problem with mentioning (but not arguing for) 
your position, all the more so because it was echoed by the RySG. But that is 
your call.

I agree with your thoughts on the RySG comments in general. Don't always agree 
with the content, but they have always done their homework and contribute 
thoughtfully. A model of others to follow. Will be interesting if they can 
continue this level of thoroughness when they grow in size.

Alan

At 18/09/2011 02:41 PM, Avri Doria wrote:

>oops.  Correction.
>
>The comments were from the RySG and not the 
>RrSG.  My comments are also about the RySG's comments.
>
>Indeed my view on this does seem similar to the 
>RySG view, though they do not say anything about 
>waiting for the SEP to start with TAS 
>payment.  Then again they do make the point 
>about doing anything prior to the general 
>announcement of strings is very similar to 
>Expression of Intent (EOI), except that it is an 
>EOI only for support applicants.    BTW, how do 
>we handle the confidentiality of support 
>applicant's strings?  Don't remember what we 
>said in anything about that during the SEP 
>process.  but if these strings are not kept 
>confidential, then we can expect that there will 
>be a speculator applying for each and every one of them.
>
>While I have only read the RySG's comments 
>quickly once, I think they have good 
>questions.  I think many are matters of 
>explanation. Some are issue we hope get resolved 
>in the implementation design.  Some fall on one 
>side or the other of discussions we had in the 
>group.  And some may have substantive issues.  I 
>think they did a good job - in fact generally, I 
>think the RySG comments efforts are among the 
>best in the GNSO, they always help me see 
>another point of view on some issue or other.
>
>
>Not that I often don't learn things from the RrSG comments as well.
>
>avri
>
>
>On 18 Sep 2011, at 14:31, Avri Doria wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was worried about including my own opinions 
> while being the WG mouthpiece.  But I suppose I 
> can stick to just giving the WG opinion.  I do 
> not think that I should get into arguing my own 
> positions in this particular venue.
> >
> > Indeed my view on this does seem similar to 
> the RrSG view, though they do not say anything 
> about waiting for the SEP to start with TAS 
> payment.  Then again they do make the point 
> about doing anything prior to the general 
> announcement of strings is very similar to 
> Expression of Intent (EOI), except that it is 
> an EOI only for support applicants.    BTW, how 
> do we handle the confidentiality of support 
> applicant's strings?  Don't remember what we 
> said in anything about that during the SEP 
> process.  but if these strings are not kept 
> confidential, then we can expect that there 
> will be a speculator applying for each and every one of them.
> >
> > While I have only read the RrSG's comments 
> quickly once, I think they have good 
> questions.  I think many are matters of 
> explanation. Some are issue we hope get 
> resolved in the implementation design.  Some 
> fall on one side or the other of discussions we 
> had in the group.  And some may have 
> substantive issues.  I think they did a good 
> job - in fact generally, I think the RrSG 
> comments efforts are among the best in the 
> GNSO, they always help me see another point of view on some issue or other.
> >
> > avri
> >
> > On 18 Sep 2011, at 14:09, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> >
> >> On the timing, just say what it says, and 
> add that personally, you felt ....   I don't 
> see anything wrong with saying this.
> >>
> >> If my quick glance at it was correct, I 
> think the RySG said the same thing.
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> At 18/09/2011 01:06 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> In reading though the slides I have been 
> volunteered for by Alan, i am generally fine 
> with  his division,  I recommend the following changes:
> >>>
> >>> slide 16 (17 when Alan's slide 13 is added) change 4th bullet to read:
> >>>
> >>> The possible funding of proposals to create 
> regional non-profit Registry Service Providers 
> (RSP) to support multiple applicants for new gTLDs in developing economies
> >>>
> >>> slide 17 (18) second major bullet
> >>>
> >>> .ICANN should serve as a facilitator for 
> this non-financial support by providing a 
> clearinghouse function to assist 
> Support-Approved Candidates and third-party donors in finding each other.
> >>>
> >>> slide 18 (19)  first bullet, 2nd subbullet
> >>>
> >>> - A specific service to the public interest
> >>>
> >>> slide 19 (20) third bullet
> >>>
> >>> Evidence of any previously funded projects 
> showing degree of success in meeting goals of the project.
> >>>
> >>> -  On 20-21  and the timing of the SEP 
> I  think I was the single opponent of this 
> timing.  I think it should continue through the 
> end of the application period and perhaps 
> beyond if staggered payment is accepted and 
> should start with the beginning of the 
> application period with the payment of the 
> 5kusd TAS fee.  I am not trying to reopen a 
> subject I was not successful on, but thinking I 
> may not be the best person to argue why this is 
> the right way to do things.  So perhaps this is 
> better moved to Alan's pile.  I could take the 
> first few slides and then transfer to Alan at 
> slide 5.  though I am also fine with just moving then to after slide 12 (13).
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>>
> >>> avri
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:32, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 1. Slide 10, second bullet: Replace with 
> "A governmental or para-statal institution (BUT 
> discussion with GAC continuing)"
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Add a new bullet after the first bullet 
> on slide 12: "The fee reduction is to be 
> separate from the financial support based on the Board allocated $2m+;"
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. I suggest adding a new slide after the current slide 12.
> >>>>
> >>>> Title: Fee reduction and Cost Recovery
> >>>>
> >>>> Bullets:
> >>>> - GNSO Implementation Guideline B: 
> "Application fees will be designed to ensure 
> that adequate resources exist to cover the 
> total cost to administer the new gTLD process. 
> Application fees may differ for applicants."
> >>>>
> >>>> - Report suggests a number of ways that 
> fee reduction can be funded without the $2m+ 
> and without impacting operational cost-recovery
> >>>>
> >>>> - Depending on exact number of total new 
> gTLD Applicants and support recipients, return 
> to reserve of sunk costs may be reduced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. Current slide 18, second bullet: delete 
> "is not a generic word and " as was done with 
> the same phrase on an earlier slide.
> >>>>
> >>>> LASTLY: On who does what, I suggest that I 
> do slides 1-13 (current 1-12 plus the new 13 
> suggested above) and Avri does 14-24. Excluding 
> the title, agenda and further reading, that 
> gives us roughly the same amount of work, and 
> will allow me to leave the 2nd session earlier bit earlier if needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do we plan to allow any questions during 
> the presentation? I typically like that, for 
> simple clarifications but not long discussions, but I can go either way.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alan
> >>>>
> >>>> At 15/09/2011 07:56 PM, Karla Valente wrote:
> >>>>> Dear Alan,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for your feedback. Please see 
> answers below and adjusted slides attached.
> >>>>> Are you comfortable with the sequence?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Karla Valente
> >>>>> Director, gTLD Registry Programs
> >>>>> Mobile:  +1 310 936 4639
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx [ 
> mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:50 PM
> >>>>> To: Karla Valente; Avri Doria
> >>>>> Cc: SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Avri, Alan : here is the 
> Webinar power point for you review
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not having seen anything, I have reviewed 
> the presentation hand have a number of points 
> below. So changes, some questions about what an 
> item in the report means. I am comfortable 
> doing either 1st or second half. So Avri can choose.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ======================
> >>>>> Comments and questions:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Suggest putting slide numbers on slides
> >>>>> Done
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. On slide 3, what is meaning of blue/black/red?
> >>>>> Blue is the overall program
> >>>>> Black process related terms
> >>>>> Red candidate related terms
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So we differentiate process, people and overall goal when we speak.
> >>>>> We can have all in black if you prefer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. On slide 9, the lower left oval is not 
> attached to Service to Public. Is this a subtle message?
> >>>>> Formatting issues when I copied and pasted from another presentation.
> >>>>> Adjusted
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4. On slide 10: "An applicant for a gTLD 
> string that is not a generic word intended to 
> reference a specific commercial entity 
> (commonly referred to within ICANN as a "dot-brand");"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If that is what the report says, I think 
> we got it wrong. That would rule out Apple (a 
> generic word intended to reference the computer 
> company), but would not rule out .greenberg, 
> the TLD that I plan to apply for my for-profit 
> consulting company (it is not a generic word). Would also let in .ibm, 
> .sanyo..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is what the reports says ­ copied 
> and pasted: "An applicant for a gTLD string 
> that is not a generic word intended to 
> reference a specific commercial entity 
> (commonly referred to within ICANN as a "dot-brand")"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps in this slide just say "An 
> applicant for a gTLD string that is intended to 
> reference a specific commercial entity 
> (commonly referred to within ICANN as a 
> "dot-brand");" and worry about the report separately.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Done
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5. Slide 12/3: I thought we said that the 
> fee reduction is not "Financial Support" with 
> upper case F/S. And we should explicitly say 
> somewhere that this reduction is not to be 
> funded by the $2m+ (perhap we do later but I haven't got there yet).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Was not meant as financial support in the 
> context the report has, but Fee Considerations. 
> I changed to Fee Considerations. Does it make more sense now?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6. On slide 19, do you have any idea what 
> "Evidence of any previous project fund" means? Which project??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is from the report. I think this is 
> an implementation detail to be finalized.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 7. On same slide: "Recommendations 
> regarding the ability to form a sustainable 
> operation". Rec from whom?? Perhaps means References from people?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also from the report. I think this is an 
> implementation detail to be finalized.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 8. Will slide 21 actually display properly??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It does on my computer and on Adobe as I 
> tested today.  I made few adjustments. Please 
> see how it displays on your computer now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 9. Slide 22: Consideration by GNSO, ALAC and THEN Board.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Added "then"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 10. Same slide: "Publication of MR2 for 
> Summary Analysis"?? "Perhaps Publication of MR2 Comment Summary Analysis"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Done + added few clarifications on languages availability.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 14/09/2011 04:38 PM, Karla Valente wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Avri, Alan,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see attached the first draft of 
> the power point for the webinar. I kept it 
> simple, but it still have many slides and we need to be mindful about the Q&A.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In order to do reviews, I suggest the following process:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.       Avri and Alan decide on which part each will present
> >>>>> 2.       Avri sends to Alan suggested 
> reordering of slides based on sequence agreed + changes to content
> >>>>> 3.       Alan sends Final to Karla
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does this work for you?
> >>>>> If yes, once this is done, I will ensure 
> the ppt is ready and uploaded in the system for our dry-run and webinars.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The presentation total time is 90 minutes.
> >>>>> I have sent the proposal below and I did 
> not hear any objections. Let me know if you are still in agreement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Proposed structure of presentation:
> >>>>> 1 minute (Karla) - explain the webinar 
> structure, remind Q&A at the end. Introduce 
> Carlton and Rafik. Open to suggestions if you want someone else to do this.
> >>>>> 1 minute (Carlton) - welcome, explain 
> what the JAS WG is, how long has it been working,  how is composed, its goal.
> >>>>> 1 minute (Rafik) - explain the next steps 
> (GNSO, ALAC consideration) + public comment + 
> Dakar board consideration and special session. Introduce Avri and Alan.
> >>>>> 20 minutes (Avri)
> >>>>> 20 minutes (Alan)
> >>>>> Remaining time: Q&A moderated by Rafik 
> and/or Carlton. Note I will help to gather questions from the chat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Karla Valente
> >>>>> Director, gTLD Registry Programs
> >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >>>>> Direct:  + 1 310 301 3878
> >>>>> Mobile:  +1 310 936 4639
> >>>>> Skype: kdlvalente
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >


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