RE: [gnso-osc] OSC Letter to CCT -- Draft v5

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The CCT mentioned 'civility' not the OSC, so I did not weigh anything.
Our response simply quotes the CCT recommendation that used the word
'civility' and then notes that there were some differing view points
expressed in the OSC with regard to their recommendation and encourages
them to look at those.  I am at a total loss how that advocates one
position over another.

Chuck 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-osc] OSC Letter to CCT -- Draft v5
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By mentioning civility without mentioning tolerance, you 
> weighed one over the other.
> 
> Whenever a group begins to enforce some rule of proper and 
> acceptable speech all speech becomes threatened.  It is only 
> by explicitly pairing the notion of civility with tolerance 
> that we have a chance of avoiding that situation.
> 
> By mentioning one, without the other in the note, you avoided 
> balance in the matter.  That to me represents advocating one 
> position over the other.
> 
> 
> a.
>  
> On 7 Dec 2009, at 21:01, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> 
> > No position was eliminated Avri; not yours and not anyone 
> elses.  Nor 
> > was any position advocated; not yours and not anyone elses.  Rather 
> > all positions are in the archives for consideration by the CCT.
> > 
> > Chuck
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> >> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:49 PM
> >> To: Ken Bour
> >> Cc: gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [gnso-osc] OSC Letter to CCT -- Draft v5
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> totally eliminated my position.
> >> oh well.  next time i will be more careful what i say.
> >> 
> >> a.
> >> 
> >> On 7 Dec 2009, at 20:37, Ken Bour wrote:
> >> 
> >>> OSC Members:
> >>> 
> >>> Chuck, Liz, and I had a brief teleconference today and
> >> discussed a way forward as to paragraph 4(a).  The 
> following language 
> >> is proposed as a replacement and a clean version (Draft v5) is 
> >> attached.
> >>> a)      Executive Summary Recommendations (last bullet 
> >> point) and 2.5.7 Degradation in Civility
> >>> Recommendation:  "Encourage the understanding of opposing
> >> perspectives, while maintaining a spirit of cooperation 
> and civility"
> >>> Comment:  Several OSC members had differing thoughts and
> >> opinions about this recommendation; however, the OSC was unable to 
> >> reach consensus on a single position.  For additional information, 
> >> the CCT is encouraged to consult the OSC email archive 
> >> athttp://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-osc/index.html between 
> the dates 
> >> of 1 November through 7 December 2009.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Ken Bour
> >>> <OSC Summary Comments (DRAFT v5 CLEAN)- CCT Final
> >> Recommendations.doc>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 
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