Re: [gnso-osc] OSC Letter to CCT -- Draft v5
To be honest, I think the sentence "Encourage the understanding of opposing perspectives, while maintaining a spirit of cooperation and civility" does highlight a spirit of tolerance. It's true that the word isn't in there, but I think Chuck and Ken did a good job of trying to bring together all positions and then of taking a decision so as to get things moving forwards. That is never easy to do when dealing with a group of different opinions, as we all know. I therefore appreciate the leadership displayed here. I have followed the various discussions on this topic without wading in, and I do think there's a genuine attempt in the resulting proposal to try and carry most opinions over in the fairest, truest, way. Thanks, Stéphane Le 7 déc. 2009 à 21:45, Gomes, Chuck a écrit : > > The CCT mentioned 'civility' not the OSC, so I did not weigh anything. > Our response simply quotes the CCT recommendation that used the word > 'civility' and then notes that there were some differing view points > expressed in the OSC with regard to their recommendation and encourages > them to look at those. I am at a total loss how that advocates one > position over another. > > Chuck > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:32 PM >> To: gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: [gnso-osc] OSC Letter to CCT -- Draft v5 >> >> >> Hi, >> >> By mentioning civility without mentioning tolerance, you >> weighed one over the other. >> >> Whenever a group begins to enforce some rule of proper and >> acceptable speech all speech becomes threatened. It is only >> by explicitly pairing the notion of civility with tolerance >> that we have a chance of avoiding that situation. >> >> By mentioning one, without the other in the note, you avoided >> balance in the matter. That to me represents advocating one >> position over the other. >> >> >> a. >> >> On 7 Dec 2009, at 21:01, Gomes, Chuck wrote: >> >>> No position was eliminated Avri; not yours and not anyone >> elses. Nor >>> was any position advocated; not yours and not anyone elses. Rather >>> all positions are in the archives for consideration by the CCT. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:49 PM >>>> To: Ken Bour >>>> Cc: gnso-osc@xxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-osc] OSC Letter to CCT -- Draft v5 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> totally eliminated my position. >>>> oh well. next time i will be more careful what i say. >>>> >>>> a. >>>> >>>> On 7 Dec 2009, at 20:37, Ken Bour wrote: >>>> >>>>> OSC Members: >>>>> >>>>> Chuck, Liz, and I had a brief teleconference today and >>>> discussed a way forward as to paragraph 4(a). The >> following language >>>> is proposed as a replacement and a clean version (Draft v5) is >>>> attached. >>>>> a) Executive Summary Recommendations (last bullet >>>> point) and 2.5.7 Degradation in Civility >>>>> Recommendation: "Encourage the understanding of opposing >>>> perspectives, while maintaining a spirit of cooperation >> and civility" >>>>> Comment: Several OSC members had differing thoughts and >>>> opinions about this recommendation; however, the OSC was unable to >>>> reach consensus on a single position. For additional information, >>>> the CCT is encouraged to consult the OSC email archive >>>> athttp://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-osc/index.html between >> the dates >>>> of 1 November through 7 December 2009. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ken Bour >>>>> <OSC Summary Comments (DRAFT v5 CLEAN)- CCT Final >>>> Recommendations.doc> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > Attachment:
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