RE: [gnso-rap-dt] Registration Abuse Policies Workshop pre-meeting

["Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Greg's points.  I would also add that the slides are very
registrar centric as it continually cites the RAA.  The reality is that
the definition of Consensus Policies are different for registrars and
registries and that should be discussed (I brought this up in the PDP WT
as well).  I would love to see the RAA amended to have the same
definition as the registries have, but that has not yet happened.


Thanks.

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.: NeuStar, Inc.
Vice President, Law & Policy 



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From: owner-gnso-rap-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-rap-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Greg Aaron
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:12 PM
To: 'Marika Konings'; gnso-rap-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Liz Gasster'; 'Margie Milam'
Subject: RE: [gnso-rap-dt] Registration Abuse Policies Workshop
pre-meeting

 

Dear Marika and Margie and friends:

 

Thanks for slides.  I have a few comments for consideration.

 

Slide 11 contains theorizing about what might be examples of
registration abuse.  Perhaps this should be avoided, given that the WG
will be tasked with exploring the definitional and policy issues and
developing an illustrative categorization of known abuses.  Instead, it
might be better to point to examples of registration abuse that are
already well-understood.  For example, one could point to the AGP Limits
Policy.  That was the product of a PDP, which determined there was abuse
of the add grace period.  Another example is WHOIS accuracy, which is
within ICANN policy scope.

 

So, I suggest that the slides talk about what we do know so far, and
that discussion be allowed to proceed from there. The Fast-flux Working
Group experience emphasized that scope and definitional work are
critical, especially early on.  Perhaps it is best that we not get ahead
of ourselves.  

 

Also regarding the current examples on slide 11:

*       Fast-flux ("rapidly modifying nameserver records in order to
avoid takedown attempts") seems like inapplicable example.  Nameserver
changes are a post-registration activity.  Also, the FFWG's report notes
that fast-flux is a use issue, and that most fast-flux is accomplished
without making changes to domain or host records. 
*       As someone mentioned, the genesis of the UDRP sounds unique; and
the use-versus-registration issues there are not understood yet.  
*       I suggest that examples of domain use abuses could include:
phishing, spam, intentional distribution of malware, and botnet
command-and-control.  

 

All best,

--Greg

 

 

 

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From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:39 AM
To: gnso-rap-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-rap-dt] Registration Abuse Policies Workshop pre-meeting

 

Dear All,
 
As discussed on our last conference call, we would like to convene with
the members of the drafting team that will be presenting at the
Registration Abuse Policies Workshop on Sunday 2 March to quickly run
through the programme and presentations for the workshop. We would like
to propose to do this on Sunday during the afternoon break from 15.30 -
16.00. If we could gather in the GNSO meeting room (Don Diego 2), we can
try to find a quiet corner in that room or just outside of the room. 
 
For your information, you will find attached the slides ICANN staff has
prepared for its contribution to the workshop. Please note that we have
included a short introduction to be provided at the beginning of the
workshop in order to put into context the discussion and focus of the
workshop for the attendees. Please feel free to share your slides /
speaking points with the list.
 
With regard to the programme, I followed up with the NCUC and ISPCP, but
they have not responded yet whether they will participate or not. Beau
Brendler will be speaking on behalf of the ALAC and the SSAC will
confirm a speaker shortly.
 
Have a safe trip and see you in Mexico City!
 
With best regards,
 
Marika