Pro-VeriSign "cookie-cutter" posting ( was Re: [ga] RE: Input from Public Relations Firms)

[George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, Danny, the same thing happened in the WLS debate:

http://forum.icann.org/wls/

where there were a lot of questionable pro-VeriSign postings, and we
managed to trace a lot of them to the state of Oregon (where SnapNames
is located, lol).

The individual messages on that WLS forum page seem to have been
deleted! Is ICANN censoring the debate again??!!??

However, I had made a mirror at:

http://www.antiwls.com/icannwlsforum/forum.icann.org/wls/index.html

e.g. one can see a couple of Mike Mann's post at:

http://www.antiwls.com/icannwlsforum/forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage2f74.html?wls;3D1157E800000064

http://www.antiwls.com/icannwlsforum/forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessagea3b3.html?wls;3D123FAD0000007F

Or others caught at:

http://www.antiwls.com/icannwlsforum/forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage792c.html?wls;3D1167760000006A

http://www.antiwls.com/icannwlsforum/forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage353e.html?wls;3D18CDFA000000D9

or my own analysis at:

http://www.antiwls.com/icannwlsforum/forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage5dad.html?wls;3D1175840000006C

WLS *still* hasn't launched, even though the process was corrupt and
ICANN's Board signed off on it, despite the GNSO Super Majority
Consensus against it. Must suck to be VeriSign, that the "little guys"
made a difference in stopping their abusive monopoly behaviour, since
it was proposed by VeriSign in 2001, and it is now nearly 2006! :)

VeriSign needs to learn some new tricks....stuffing comment forums with
spin is sooooo 2002ish.

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
http://www.kirikos.com/

--- Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> 
> So I assume that you didn't notice the postings from
> David Darlington and from Denevan O'Connell from
> Gildea, O?Connell & Darlington -- a public affairs
> consulting firm that provides Federal, State and
> Municipal Lobbying, Public Relations/Crisis
> Management, etc.
> 
> ... or the posting from Tyler Richter whose current
> employer requires him to "Develop and execute media
> and grassroots strategy and tactics for local,
> regional and national public affairs campaigns."
> 
> ...or the posting from the Fekel Group's Research
> Director Brian Aufmuth.  His firm states:  "We are
> experts at ?framing? issues to ensure not only maximum
> exposure but the best possible, and positive, media
> coverage"
> 
> ... or the post from Marcus Dell'Artino of the
> lobbying firm Public Policy Partners
> 
> ... or the post from Chris Faulkner whose Faulkner
> Strategies company is a national consulting firm
> specializing in advocacy, strategy etc.
> 
> just a concidence I suppose that they were all posted
> at moreorless the same time with basically the same
> message :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Danny,
> > 
> > I am not aware of any PR firm work.  The few
> > positive postings I have
> > seen seem right on target.
> > 
> > Chuck Gomes
> > VeriSign Naming & Directory Services
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Danny Younger
> > [mailto:dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:54 PM
> > > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > > Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Input from Public Relations Firms 
> > > 
> > > Hello Chuck,
> > > 
> > > ... as long as you're in listening mode... Please
> > > convey my thanks to VeriSign for providing the
> > recent
> > > spate of comical "We love the settlement" remarks
> > sent
> > > to the settlement-comments forum.  If you don't
> > mind
> > > receiving a friendly tip... when your company
> > hires
> > > public relations firms to suddenly flood the list
> > with
> > > bogus supportive comments, please try to enlist
> > > slightly more competent help :)
> > > 
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Danny
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Supporting the ICAAN Verizon Settlement
> > > To: settlement-comments@xxxxxxxxx 
> > > Subject: Supporting the ICAAN Verizon Settlement 
> > > From: Dick Shiner <dickshiner@xxxxxxxxx> 
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:09:34 -0500 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Enough nonsense, the suit should be settled, and
> > > Verizon and ICAAN should get back to work. 
> > Verizon
> > > provides great customer service, flexible pricing
> > > plans, and easy to understand bills.
> > > 
> > > I don't know much about ICAAN, but these people
> > who
> > > are putting down Verizon probably just want
> > customers
> > > to switch their service over to ICAAN.
> > > 
> > > Verizon is for competition and a better internet.
> > > 
> > > We should support the settlement.
> > > 
> > > R. Shiner
> > > 
> > > (ps to Jim, Paypal is fine)
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/settlement-comments/msg00326.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > >           
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