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Re: [alac] Revision of internal positions

  • To: shahshah@xxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [alac] Revision of internal positions
  • From: Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:15:08 -0500

Thanks for the clarification. If a team of chair and co-chairs would be able to accomplish ALAC work more effectively than individuals separately elected, I would be happy supporting that option.

--Wendy

At 02:09 PM 2/22/2006, shahshah@xxxxxxxx wrote:
I second Wendy's suggestion that if someone considers uniformity of
opinion or a unified public face a value, he/she should come out and
explain it. I certainly do not think that way, nor do I think that my
statement said that (I did use some of those words but not in that
combination). Perhaps non-native English users like myself can cause
unintended misunderstandings. What I was saying was that if we are going
to set up an elaborate Chair+2 Vice Chairs structure, we should avoid a
situation where ALAC, already accused of failure and ineffectiveness,
displays public quarrels among its own elected officers. This is specially
important in the outreach function, where despite the diversity of opinion
that prevails, the pursuit of some action plan seems absolutely necessary
for the survival of ALAC. Whoever takes up the mantle of this daunting
task will need the support of ALAC Chair and other members. I should
perhaps add that I will not be a candidate either for this function or for
the Chair.
Siavash

> I don't see any need for (or benefit to) uniformity of opinion among
> the leadership.  I'd rather have three people committed to helping us
> express the views of the public in the ICANN process, than three
> people who share the same opinion about how best to do that.
>
> Maybe someone else can help me to understand why it is important to
> present a unified public face, since this is clearly an important
> value to some.  I see us as more akin to a congress, where there are
> often strong differences of opinion and it's important for leaders to
> present the positions of all parties to the debate.
>
> I preferred Vittorio's original proposal.
> --Wendy
>
> At 10:54 AM 2/22/2006, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>>Il giorno mar, 21/02/2006 alle 00.36 +0330, shahshah@xxxxxxxx ha
>>scritto:
>> > Vittorio,
>> > Assuming this [Chair+2ViceChairs] formula is now accepted(it wasn't my
>> > favorite, but I can live with it), let us not risk possible lack of
>> public
>> > harmony by electing independent candidates to these positions. After
>> all,
>> > the Chair should still be the public face of the Committee and you
>> would
>> > not want public quarrels between the Chair and one of the Vice Chairs.
>> I
>> > propose we adopt one of the following methods:
>> > Method 1. We first choose a Chair. The the Chair will nominate one or
>> more
>> > candidates he/she has come to an understanding with for each Vice
>> Chair
>> > position. The Committee then votes for the Vice Chairs.
>> > Method 2. You ask for nominations for 3-member teams(with specified
>> > positions). Then the Committee members vote for the team they prefer.
>> It
>> > should be understood that the team members have reached an
>> understanding
>> > among themselves on how they're going to work together.
>> > I'm personally inclined toward Method 1, but I'd like to hear
>> other opinions.
>>
>>I did not want to make this too complex, and I would be afraid of method
>>2, which, requiring people to agree on groups of candidates, could
>>effectively give way to a "majority" and "minority" in the Committee. In
>>this case I would rather prefer to have people of different opinion in
>>the various positions, but that's a personal preference.
>>In any case, perhaps it's reasonable to first appoint the Chair and then
>>run a second separate process for the vice Chairs, according to the
>>result. Do other people have preferences on this matter?
>>--
>>vb.             [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] bertola.eu.org]<-----
>>http://bertola.eu.org/  <- Prima o poi...
>
> --
> Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School
> Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society
> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html
> http://www.chillingeffects.org/
>


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Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School
Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html
http://www.chillingeffects.org/





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