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RE: [gnso-consensus-wg] GNSO Consensus Current Thinking
- To: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller@xxxxxxx>, "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>, <gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-consensus-wg] GNSO Consensus Current Thinking
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:56:57 -0400
Milton,
Here is how we did it in our Domain Tasting statement dated 6 March:
gTLD Registries Constituency (RyC) Information:
· Total # of eligible RyC Members: 15
· Total # of RyC Members: 15
· Total # of Active RyC Members: 15
Names of Members that participated in this process:
1. Afilias Limited (.info)
2. DotAsia Organisation (.asia)
3. DotCooperation (.coop)
4. Employ Media (.jobs)
5. Fundació puntCAT (.cat)
6. Global Name Registry (.name)
7. mTLD Top Level Domain (.mobi)
8. Museum Domain Management Association - MuseDoma (.museum)
9. NeuStar (.biz)
10. Public Interest Registry (.org)
11. RegistryPro (.pro)
12. Societe Internationale de Telecommunication Aeronautiques - SITA (.aero)
13. Telnic (.tel)
14. Tralliance Corporation (.travel)
15. VeriSign (.com & .net)
I fully recognize that the first bullet (Total # of eligible Members) would be
unreasonable for all of the user constituencies (or stakeholder groups) and in
cases where the participating members is very large it may be cumbersome to
list them all. But I believe that information like this contributes to the
transparency that I think all of us support.
Chuck
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From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:06 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck; Metalitz, Steven; gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-consensus-wg] GNSO Consensus Current Thinking
Chuck, if all you mean is that statements issuing from constituencies
have to document who supports them within a constituency we don't have a
disagreement.
But it's not hard to get a representative sample of a population of 9
registries. The problem is not even remotely comparable to determining whether
an entire SG adequately represents some broad class of actor like "commercial
entities." I asked you to name a standard for doing that. You didn't. I
suggest that you can't. I suggest that, short of a global electoral voting
process, no one can.
________________________________
From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:23 AM
To: Milton L Mueller; Metalitz, Steven; gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-consensus-wg] GNSO Consensus Current Thinking
The RyC has long supported efforts to document representativeness. For
quite awhile now we have provided data regarding the representativeness
specific to particular statements we submit into GNSO processes. Granted it is
easier for us but that does not mean that other constituencies cannot provide
similar data relative to their particular community. This to me seems to be
about the only way we can attempt to measure whether a group has been captured
by a few individuals, a problem for which there was large concern before the
DNSO was originally formed.
Chuck
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From: owner-gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:05 PM
To: Metalitz, Steven; gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-consensus-wg] GNSO Consensus Current
Thinking
I view this as either controversial or meaningless. There are
no objective criteria for "representativeness" and "breadth" when it comes to
vast, global categories of users such as "commercial" or "noncommercial." I
challenge you to name one that isn't either something that all constituencies
fail (e.g., one member from every country with Internet access) or so poorly
defined that anyone could claim to meet it.
Lacking truly objective criteria, the standards will simply
become methods of harassing or attempting to de-legitimize constituencies or
decisions. I can support objective criteria for qualifying as a stakeholder
group (e.g., nondiscriminatory application of membership criteria, rules
designed to prevent capture and preserve openness), but its absurd for any
constituency or group to stand in judgment of the degree to which another SG is
"representative" and "broad" enough.
________________________________
From: owner-gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-consensus-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Metalitz, Steven
Another point that should be retained from previous proposals
is that all stakeholder groups must meet objective criteria for
representativeness and breadth. As I recall this was non-controversial, but I
am sure I will be corrected if my recollection is wrong!
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