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RE: [gnso-dow123] Emailing: 2100-9588_22-5986553.htm

  • To: <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <KathrynKL@xxxxxxx>, <gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <maggie.mansourkia@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] Emailing: 2100-9588_22-5986553.htm
  • From: "Milton Mueller" <mueller@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:03:05 -0500

Here we go again! Why do I have this feeling of deja vu? 

Maggie and Steve: as you should have learned during our conference in 
Vancouver, the contact information ISPs and telephone companies have about 
their subscribers is not subject to complete, open public access to anyone and 
everyone (including criminals). WHOIS is the exception, not the rule, and that 
exception is illegal in a number of countries. 

Are you saying that law enforcement attempts to combat phishing, etc. are worse 
in Canada and Britain because of individuals' ability to protect their data? 

Are you calling for the abolition of unlisted phone numbers? 

Are you saying that anyone should be able to type a drivers' license into a web 
interface and get the name, address and phone number of the driver? 

If not, then you are on our side on the Whois question.

The priorities are simple: protect legitimate individual privacy rights, and 
accuracy measures will find plenty of support. Continue to denigrate those 
rights, and you will find no support for your efforts to coerce registrars into 
exposing sensitive subscriber data in order to make your trademark and 
copyright protection efforts a bit cheaper. 

>>> "Mansourkia, Magnolia (Maggie)" <maggie.mansourkia@xxxxxxx> 12/8/2005 
>>> 12:24:50 PM >>>
The problem is that your answer does not take human nature and the
tenacity of criminals into consideration.  Limits on Whois access will
not reduce the number of criminals or bad actors making up false
information; it will only reduce the tools available to locate, remove
and/or prosecute them.  There are far more bad actors registering
domains than there are those falsifying information as a privacy
concern.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of KathrynKL@xxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:40 AM
To: kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: [gnso-dow123] Emailing: 2100-9588_22-5986553.htm

 

The answer seems to be right in front of us:  

-  introduce basic privacy protections and people will not be reduced to
"self-help" measures of putting inaccurate information into the Whois;

-  Introduce basic privacy protections and the level of accuracy in the
Whois will sky-rocket.  -  Introduce basic privacy protections and the
bad actors will be much easier to identify and address.

 

Kathy

        More than 8 percent of all Internet domain names are registered
with false or incomplete information, according to a U.S. government
study into the prevalence of phony Web sites. 

 






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