Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here

[William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Since the ET call is entirely on individuals and their qualifications I would 
think you can leave it canceled, no?

On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Caroline Greer wrote:

> And does the same apply for ET call on Thursday? I had just cancelled
> the recording. But I imagine we will be deep into discussing candidates
> for most of the call.....
> 
> Caroline.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 10 March 2010 07:31
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Caroline Greer; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx; Stephane Van
> Gelder
> Subject: Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
> 
> Oh, I was assuming you'd all want it off the record.
> 
> I am totally fine with it being recorded, transcribed, whatever.  I will
> go with whatever approach makes everyone comfortable.  
> 
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> Like I said in my comments a few minutes ago, I would like as much as
>> possible for it to be recorded, only turning off the recording if and
>> when we talk about the candidates.
>> 
>> Chuck 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:12 AM
>>> To: Gomes, Chuck
>>> Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx; 
>>> Stephane Van Gelder
>>> Subject: Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I don't know what's worse, that I was up at 5:30 writing that 
>>> message or that you're still up replying to it...
>>> 
>>> As you know I'm normally a bit hardline about meetings being 
>>> open and transparent.  However, this is an election with 
>>> discussion of individuals, so if others propose an 
>>> unrecorded, untranscribed meeting I imagine I/NCSG will go along.
>>> 
>>> Yes of course we should start with people talking about who 
>>> they endorsed and why.
>>> 
>>> BD
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bill,
>>>> 
>>>> Your plan looks very good.  I would just add a couple things that 
>>>> probably go without saying.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Do we plan to allow for discussion of candidates?  If 
>>> so, I think 
>>>> those need to be off the record.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Should the meeting be recorded?  Should the recording be posted 
>>>> later without any confidential sessions.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Will the meeting be transcribed?
>>>> 
>>>> 4. We may want to start with a one page summary of the SG 
>>> endorsements.
>>>> 
>>>> 5. I think it might be a good idea for you to go over your proposed 
>>>> approach in the Council meeting today and then try to get a brief 
>>>> discussion going so we at least have a feel for how people 
>>> feel about 
>>>> the approach.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Drake
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:00 PM
>>>>> To: <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Cc: cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re:: [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:28 PM, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anybody know how the council voting procedure shall be
>>>>> next week? Are they going to vote on each single applicant 
>>> or just on 
>>>>> the bunch?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Attempts to start focused conversations on voting 
>>> procedures have not 
>>>>> met with great success, which is a pity, especially if 
>>> someone asks 
>>>>> at the open meeting how we plan to proceed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really think we should keep things as simple as possible.  
>>>>> There's no reason for this to be regarded as mysterious, 
>>> complex, or 
>>>>> vexing.  Here's my suggestion, which I would not know how 
>>> to describe 
>>>>> the status of sans feedback and approval.  Anyone asks in the open 
>>>>> meeting we'll just have to say Council's still sorting the details.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are 3 allocated candidates, hopefully 2 candidates for 
>>>>> unaffiliated, and thus 6 for the open slot.  If 1 
>>> unaffiliated, then 
>>>>> 7---depends on the ET's classification, TBD.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the latter 2 cases we vote.  All candidates are listed on the 
>>>>> ballot in their respective pools, the endorsements are simply 
>>>>> signaling devices to hopefully promote mutual adjustment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think we need an abstain option.  It's not a 
>>> binary between 
>>>>> two choices, someone doesn't want x to win, they vote for y.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Staff can put on the Adobe two lists of names, one for seat 5, one 
>>>>> for 6, we go around the call, people give their first preference, 
>>>>> staff puts a mark next to the names.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Someone gets a simple majority, they win.  They don't, we run a 
>>>>> second round and see if votes shift to allow winners.  If 
>>> there's no 
>>>>> winners after two rounds we stop and submit just the three 
>>> allocated 
>>>>> names.  If there are winners, we are bound by our rules to 
>>> assess the 
>>>>> slate by the diversity criteria and try to make adjustments if 
>>>>> necessary.  That would be a difficult process, one I very 
>>> much hope 
>>>>> we can avoid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The various scenarios are very much dependent on how the ET 
>>>>> distributes the candidates to categories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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>>> William J. Drake
>>> Senior Associate
>>> Centre for International Governance
>>> Graduate Institute of International and
>>> Development Studies
>>> Geneva, Switzerland
>>> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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>>> 
> 
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> William J. Drake  
> Senior Associate
> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
>  Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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William J. Drake  
Senior Associate
Centre for International Governance
Graduate Institute of International and
  Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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