RE: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I see that I was mixing up meetings in my mind.  I agree that your ET
call should not be recorded at all.  The Council call on Monday may be
recorded when we are not specifically talking about candidates.

Sorry to confuse things.

Chuck 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:31 AM
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx; 
> Stephane Van Gelder
> Subject: Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
> 
> Oh, I was assuming you'd all want it off the record.
> 
> I am totally fine with it being recorded, transcribed, 
> whatever.  I will go with whatever approach makes everyone 
> comfortable.  
> 
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> 
> > Bill,
> > 
> > Like I said in my comments a few minutes ago, I would like 
> as much as 
> > possible for it to be recorded, only turning off the 
> recording if and 
> > when we talk about the candidates.
> > 
> > Chuck
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:12 AM
> >> To: Gomes, Chuck
> >> Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; 
> Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx; Stephane 
> >> Van Gelder
> >> Subject: Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
> >> 
> >> Hi Chuck,
> >> 
> >> I don't know what's worse, that I was up at 5:30 writing 
> that message 
> >> or that you're still up replying to it...
> >> 
> >> As you know I'm normally a bit hardline about meetings 
> being open and 
> >> transparent.  However, this is an election with discussion of 
> >> individuals, so if others propose an unrecorded, untranscribed 
> >> meeting I imagine I/NCSG will go along.
> >> 
> >> Yes of course we should start with people talking about who they 
> >> endorsed and why.
> >> 
> >> BD
> >> 
> >> On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Bill,
> >>> 
> >>> Your plan looks very good.  I would just add a couple things that 
> >>> probably go without saying.
> >>> 
> >>> 1. Do we plan to allow for discussion of candidates?  If
> >> so, I think
> >>> those need to be off the record.
> >>> 
> >>> 2. Should the meeting be recorded?  Should the recording 
> be posted 
> >>> later without any confidential sessions.
> >>> 
> >>> 3. Will the meeting be transcribed?
> >>> 
> >>> 4. We may want to start with a one page summary of the SG
> >> endorsements.
> >>> 
> >>> 5. I think it might be a good idea for you to go over 
> your proposed 
> >>> approach in the Council meeting today and then try to get a brief 
> >>> discussion going so we at least have a feel for how people
> >> feel about
> >>> the approach.
> >>> 
> >>> Chuck
> >>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: owner-gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Drake
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:00 PM
> >>>> To: <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Cc: cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re:: [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:28 PM, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Does anybody know how the council voting procedure shall be
> >>>> next week? Are they going to vote on each single applicant
> >> or just on
> >>>> the bunch?
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Attempts to start focused conversations on voting
> >> procedures have not
> >>>> met with great success, which is a pity, especially if
> >> someone asks
> >>>> at the open meeting how we plan to proceed.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I really think we should keep things as simple as possible.  
> >>>> There's no reason for this to be regarded as mysterious,
> >> complex, or
> >>>> vexing.  Here's my suggestion, which I would not know how
> >> to describe
> >>>> the status of sans feedback and approval.  Anyone asks 
> in the open 
> >>>> meeting we'll just have to say Council's still sorting 
> the details.
> >>>> 
> >>>> There are 3 allocated candidates, hopefully 2 candidates for 
> >>>> unaffiliated, and thus 6 for the open slot.  If 1
> >> unaffiliated, then
> >>>> 7---depends on the ET's classification, TBD.
> >>>> 
> >>>> In the latter 2 cases we vote.  All candidates are listed on the 
> >>>> ballot in their respective pools, the endorsements are simply 
> >>>> signaling devices to hopefully promote mutual adjustment.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I don't think we need an abstain option.  It's not a
> >> binary between
> >>>> two choices, someone doesn't want x to win, they vote for y.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Staff can put on the Adobe two lists of names, one for 
> seat 5, one 
> >>>> for 6, we go around the call, people give their first 
> preference, 
> >>>> staff puts a mark next to the names.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Someone gets a simple majority, they win.  They don't, we run a 
> >>>> second round and see if votes shift to allow winners.  If
> >> there's no
> >>>> winners after two rounds we stop and submit just the three
> >> allocated
> >>>> names.  If there are winners, we are bound by our rules to
> >> assess the
> >>>> slate by the diversity criteria and try to make adjustments if 
> >>>> necessary.  That would be a difficult process, one I very
> >> much hope
> >>>> we can avoid.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The various scenarios are very much dependent on how the ET 
> >>>> distributes the candidates to categories.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >> 
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> >> William J. Drake
> >> Senior Associate
> >> Centre for International Governance
> >> Graduate Institute of International and  Development 
> Studies Geneva, 
> >> Switzerland william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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> >> 
> 
> ***********************************************************
> William J. Drake
> Senior Associate
> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
>   Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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