Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here

[Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Wolf.
Olga

2010/3/10 <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>

>
> The ET meeting should not be recorded nor be transscribed.
>
>
> Kind regards
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Caroline Greer [mailto:cgreer@xxxxxxxxx]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 08:32
> An: William Drake; Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx; Stephane Van Gelder
> Betreff: RE: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
>
> And does the same apply for ET call on Thursday? I had just cancelled
> the recording. But I imagine we will be deep into discussing candidates
> for most of the call.....
>
> Caroline.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 March 2010 07:31
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; Caroline Greer; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx; Stephane Van
> Gelder
> Subject: Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
>
> Oh, I was assuming you'd all want it off the record.
>
> I am totally fine with it being recorded, transcribed, whatever.  I will
> go with whatever approach makes everyone comfortable.
>
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Like I said in my comments a few minutes ago, I would like as much as
> > possible for it to be recorded, only turning off the recording if and
> > when we talk about the candidates.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:12 AM
> >> To: Gomes, Chuck
> >> Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx;
> >> Stephane Van Gelder
> >> Subject: Re: : [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
> >>
> >> Hi Chuck,
> >>
> >> I don't know what's worse, that I was up at 5:30 writing that
> >> message or that you're still up replying to it...
> >>
> >> As you know I'm normally a bit hardline about meetings being
> >> open and transparent.  However, this is an election with
> >> discussion of individuals, so if others propose an
> >> unrecorded, untranscribed meeting I imagine I/NCSG will go along.
> >>
> >> Yes of course we should start with people talking about who
> >> they endorsed and why.
> >>
> >> BD
> >>
> >> On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bill,
> >>>
> >>> Your plan looks very good.  I would just add a couple things that
> >>> probably go without saying.
> >>>
> >>> 1. Do we plan to allow for discussion of candidates?  If
> >> so, I think
> >>> those need to be off the record.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Should the meeting be recorded?  Should the recording be posted
> >>> later without any confidential sessions.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Will the meeting be transcribed?
> >>>
> >>> 4. We may want to start with a one page summary of the SG
> >> endorsements.
> >>>
> >>> 5. I think it might be a good idea for you to go over your proposed
> >>> approach in the Council meeting today and then try to get a brief
> >>> discussion going so we at least have a feel for how people
> >> feel about
> >>> the approach.
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: owner-gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Drake
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:00 PM
> >>>> To: <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Cc: cgreer@xxxxxxxxx; Gnso-et@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re:: [gnso-et] Final Candidate list & process from here
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:28 PM, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Does anybody know how the council voting procedure shall be
> >>>> next week? Are they going to vote on each single applicant
> >> or just on
> >>>> the bunch?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Attempts to start focused conversations on voting
> >> procedures have not
> >>>> met with great success, which is a pity, especially if
> >> someone asks
> >>>> at the open meeting how we plan to proceed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I really think we should keep things as simple as possible.
> >>>> There's no reason for this to be regarded as mysterious,
> >> complex, or
> >>>> vexing.  Here's my suggestion, which I would not know how
> >> to describe
> >>>> the status of sans feedback and approval.  Anyone asks in the open
> >>>> meeting we'll just have to say Council's still sorting the details.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are 3 allocated candidates, hopefully 2 candidates for
> >>>> unaffiliated, and thus 6 for the open slot.  If 1
> >> unaffiliated, then
> >>>> 7---depends on the ET's classification, TBD.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the latter 2 cases we vote.  All candidates are listed on the
> >>>> ballot in their respective pools, the endorsements are simply
> >>>> signaling devices to hopefully promote mutual adjustment.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think we need an abstain option.  It's not a
> >> binary between
> >>>> two choices, someone doesn't want x to win, they vote for y.
> >>>>
> >>>> Staff can put on the Adobe two lists of names, one for seat 5, one
> >>>> for 6, we go around the call, people give their first preference,
> >>>> staff puts a mark next to the names.
> >>>>
> >>>> Someone gets a simple majority, they win.  They don't, we run a
> >>>> second round and see if votes shift to allow winners.  If
> >> there's no
> >>>> winners after two rounds we stop and submit just the three
> >> allocated
> >>>> names.  If there are winners, we are bound by our rules to
> >> assess the
> >>>> slate by the diversity criteria and try to make adjustments if
> >>>> necessary.  That would be a difficult process, one I very
> >> much hope
> >>>> we can avoid.
> >>>>
> >>>> The various scenarios are very much dependent on how the ET
> >>>> distributes the candidates to categories.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> ***********************************************************
> >> William J. Drake
> >> Senior Associate
> >> Centre for International Governance
> >> Graduate Institute of International and
> >>  Development Studies
> >> Geneva, Switzerland
> >> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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> >>
> >>
>
> ***********************************************************
> William J. Drake
> Senior Associate
> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
>  Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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