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RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012

  • To: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>, "'gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx'" <gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>, Wolfgang Kleinwächter <wolfgang.kleinwaechter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012
  • From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:45:34 -0400


I believe others may have addressed your points.  September 26th (yesterday) 
was the deadline for the response to the Consensus call and as Chuck stated, 
that date has been known for several weeks (at least three weeks – 21 days).  I 
have agreed to give an extra day for those that were unable to get in written 
statements by yesterday and expressed their viewpoints orally on the call, just 
so I (or ICANN staff) would not be in the position of paraphrasing the oral 
comments in the documents that go out.

If Wolfgang did say he was speaking in his personal capacity, I missed that as 
well.  I just re-listened to that part of the call which occurs a little less 
than ½ way through the call (maybe closer to 1/3 of the way through…hard to 
tell as no timer is available…but it is between Alan’s statement on behalf of 
the ALAC and Osvaldo’s statement), where Wolfgang states: “bottom line is 
similar to the ALAC.  We can more or less agree with the recommendation as it 
stands now. . . for the moment I think the text of the recommendation, the 
language as it stands now, lets say has a rough consensus of the constituency.”

So, I will ask again if the NCSG can submit an official statement for the 
record by COB today to give ICANN staff time to collect the statements for 
posting tomorrow.  We would like to get the recommendations out for public 
comment (along with all of the other statements) ASAP to give as much time 
prior to Toronto for people to discuss.  WE will continue to accept more 
comments through Toronto and beyond (as there is a reply period).


Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:23 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff; 'gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; Wolfgang Kleinwächter
Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 
September 2012


He informed the NCSG list that he was speaking purely personally and not for 
the NCSG.

I really hope that we are not once again using this DT to suppress 
disagreement. I have been very clear for a while now that you do not have 
agreement from the NCSG for a moratorium recommendation. To miss one meeting 
and have that erased would really be a misuse of even this misapplication of 
GNSO process.

I know it is predetermined that they will get special privileges not available 
to others and not established through proper process, but it should not go down 
as something that has consensus.

Also giving only one day for the submission of comments is a bit arbitrary and 
prejudicial in my opinion.
"Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


We are going to open up a public comment period on everything that has been 
received by COB today (wherever you are in the world)...just so Berry and ICANN 
has it when they come into the office in the morning Friday,  that said, 
Wolfgang was on from the NCSG yesterday, but did not express opposition to the 
moratorium.  I thought, and we can check the recording, that he said the NCSG 
supported the recommendations.  I could be off base, and Berry was taking notes 
so he can correct me.

In either case, that opinion is not set in stone, but it is important as it 
sounded like on the call the was indeed a consensus on all of the 
recommendations (if just a rough consensus).  So, if you could confirm the NCSG 
position that would be great.


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From:  Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 02:31 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 
September 2012

I unfortunately could not attend the meeting.

I want to make it clear that I do not support a the moratorium, but do support 
the PDP
I also believe that this is the position of the NCSG.

I hope that this is what was conveyed by the lone NCSG participant.

What is the deadline for opposing statements?

Nathalie Peregrine 
<nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

 Dear all,

  Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC/GNSO issues related to International 
Olympic Committee (IOC) and Red Cross (RC) names discussion group 
teleconference held on Wednesday 26 September 2012  at 1800 UTC at:


  On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep

 The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page:



  Jeff Neuman -  Registry SG group leader

   Wolfgang Kleinwachter – NCUC

   Lanre Ajayi - Nominating Committee Appointee

   Alan Greenberg – ALAC

   Chuck Gomes - RySG

  Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC

  David Heasley - IPC

   Jim Bikoff – IPC

   Stéphane Hankins – International Committee

of the Red Cross

   Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee

   Osvaldo Novao -ISPC

  Apology :

   Avri Doria –  NCSG

   J.Scott Evans – IPC

   Gregory Shatan – IPC

   Mary Wong - NCUC

   Brian Peck

  ICANN Staff

   Margie Milam

   Berry Cobb

   Nathalie Peregrine

  ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

  The mailing list address is

 <mailto:Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:Gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx> > 

 Public archives are at:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-iocrc-dt/

 Thank you.

  Kind regards,


  GNSO Secretariat

  gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>

Avri Doria

Avri Doria

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