Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] IRTP - Recommendations #3 & #4

["Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'd agree with Paul

I, personally, may like the idea of thick WHOIS, but I can also see why pushing 
a "unanimous" position could send the wrong signal. People will either miss the 
context or simply ignore it

Regards

Michele


On 18 Jan 2011, at 18:45, Diaz, Paul wrote:

> 
> Berry & Team,
> 
> Re: Recommendation 3, "unanimity" is a rare occurrence on ICANN-related 
> issues, probably because nothing ICANN-related is ever simple or discrete 
> (even if we want it to be).  
> 
> While the benefits of thick WHOIS to facilitate transfer requests has been 
> demonstrated, I (for one) am NOT willing to characterize the WG's position as 
> "Unanimous Consensus."  In my view, the subtlety of a transfer-focused 
> recommendation versus a general policy statement (i.e. all gTLDs must be 
> thick) will be lost once this goes out to the broader community.  I do not 
> believe it is this WG's role or mandate to color a future/potential PDP on 
> mandatory thick WHOIS gTLD registries.  I believe that a "unanimous 
> consensus" recommendation likely will be taken out of context as a "clear 
> call to action" by those who support mandatory thick WHOIS for all gTLDs.  I 
> have significant concerns about the latter (which I expect will be 
> aired/addressed in the future PDP) and am unwilling to risk my fears coming 
> to pass by supporting a "unanimous consent" position in this WG.
> 
> Rough Consensus is more than enough from this WG to give advocates of 
> mandatory thick WHOIS gTLDs what they need to request a PDP on the issue.  
> I'm confident that if certain Constituencies and/or Stakeholder Groups feel 
> strongly about it, their Councilors will act on the issue (and not allow it 
> to be swept under the rug).
> 
> Regards, P
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berry Cobb
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] IRTP - Recommendations #3 & #4
> 
> Team,
> 
> Recommendation #3:
> I really have a hard time understanding the change from Unanimous Consensus 
> to Rough Consensus.  What is the fear of sending a clear message that Thick 
> WHOIS is the root of several IRTP issues in addition to issues external of 
> IRTP?  As stated in the latest draft, we are not recommending that Thick 
> WHOIS be implemented, but we are recommending that a PDP be created to review 
> it.
> 
> Unless I am mistaken, we ALL agree that "In the Context of IRTP," Thick WHOIS 
> eliminates some of the process issues around the transfer of domains.  If we 
> have Unanimous Consensus on this, then how can we not have Unanimous 
> Consensus on recommending a PDP to review it?  Anything less only waters down 
> the recommendation, which will be swept under the rug, and three years from 
> now we have to address it again.
> 
> On a somewhat separate topic, it is new news to me that each Registrar can 
> choose what information to reveal on WHOIS.  Why is this?  This should be a 
> defined standard across all gTLDs.  Unless I am missing something, a standard 
> of this sort should not affect differentiation in the market place.
> 
> 
> Recommendation #4:
> Now having started the swimlane exercise of IRTP, I am beginning to side with 
> Simonetta's revision to Recommendation #4.  Change of Control seems to be the 
> foundation for IRTP.  If it changes, it will impact the IRTP process.  In my 
> view when reviewing the IRTP swimlane I sent out today, it quickly obvious 
> that the process becomes more complicated when an additional role "Admin 
> Contact" can invoke/approve the transfer.  Can anyone point me to how all 
> four WHOIS roles were defined in the creation of Thick WHOIS?  
> 
> Berry Cobb
> Infinity Portals LLC
> berrycobb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://infinityportals.com
> 720.839.5735
> 
> 

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