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Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting
- To: "Claudio Di Gangi" <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>, "'Gomes, Chuck'" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Julie Hedlund" <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-osc-csg" <gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting
- From: "Anthony Harris" <harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:17:09 -0300
Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 MeetingI fully support this viewpoint.
Tony Harris
----- Original Message -----
From: Claudio Di Gangi
To: 'Gomes, Chuck' ; Julie Hedlund ; gnso-osc-csg
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting
Dear Work team,
I believe we are getting into too granular of a level of detail by
recommending a rule concerning the nature of service on policy and executive
committees. I see this as primarily an issue for each group to determine based
on their unique characteristics. The length of service terms on these
committees will vary from group to group, so setting restrictions at four years
will not always be congruent and will be difficult to apply equally.
Service on these committees and in leadership positions involves substantial
time commitment, resources, and dedication from volunteers, and for many, the
subject matter & nature of the work is outside of their regular business or
personal areas of expertise. It takes significant ongoing involvement for many
years to become familiar with an organization this complex. There is a very
large learning curve and this will vary among the different Groups, since they
represent different communities and interests. Therefore, to some Groups a rule
restricting the participation of willing volunteers could be very
consequential, risking how effectively and efficiently the Group operates. As
was previously highlighted by Chuck, this was one of the real risks the BGC
noted for us to avoid during our deliberations.
That being said, I support term limits for serving in the same leadership
position for the reasons we have previously discussed, but I would not extend
the term limit to policy and executive committees. This is consistent with the
BGC recommendation which we are tasked with implementing, which states: ""There
should be term limits for constituency officers, so as to help attract new
members and provide everyone with the chance to participate in leadership
positions."
For this reason, I support the deletion of II. 8. A, and suggest we delete
the qualifying language in section in II.1.c & II.4
Claudio
From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:59 PM
To: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting
I don't understand why there appear to be edits made in quotations from the
BGC report (e.g., Section 1.1)
After finalizing this document in terms of content, I suggest that a clean MS
Word version be created and that a new redline version be created with minor,
non-substantial edits be done because the wording is very poor in lots of
cases, probably because of the many edits. I did not comment on these kinds of
edits below.
In II.1.c, I think "A member who has served two consecutive terms on the
Executive Committee must remain out of office for one full term prior to
serving any subsequent term as a member of the Executive Committee." should be
changed to "A member who has served four consecutive years on the Executive
Committee must remain out of office for one full term prior to serving any
subsequent term as a member of the Executive Committee." I think the same
change applies to II.4.
II.3.a (formerly b) has what appears to be an incomplete sentence: "should be
open and publicly archived --with posting rights limited to members at the
election of the".
II.9 needs some serious editing.
II.11 - Not sure a handbook is worth the effort if the recommendations are
concisely and clearly written.
II.12 - What is the purpose of this: "We recommend that all recommendations
above, apply also to the Contracted House Stakeholder Groups." ? I thought the
plan was to refer to Constituencies and SGs in all cases.
Who is the "we" in Part IV? What is the purpose of this section? Why are
the subsections numbered 3.x?
This document is way too long.
Using a wiki is terribly ineffecience for such a long document.
Chuck
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From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:48 PM
To: gnso-osc-csg
Subject: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting
Dear Work Team members,
Here are the actions/summary from today's meeting and posted on the wiki
at: https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team..
Please let me know if you have any changes or questions. Our next meeting will
be held Friday, 09 April at 1300 UTC/0600 PST/0900 EST for one hour. Thank
you very much.
Best regards,
Julie
Action Items:
1. Task 1, Subtask 2: (See the wiki at:
https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_and_stake_holder_group_operations_work_team_task_1_subtask_2.
)
A) CHANGES THROUGH SECTION 8:
a.. Work Team members should review all changes through Section 8. Policy
and provide comments to the list not later than Friday, 01 April. It will be
assumed that all changes are agreed to if no comments are received.
b.. Rafik Dammak agreed to ask Mary Wong if she had suggestions for
alternative language for Section 8. Policy, paragraph b. "Committee meetings
should be open for attendance by all {GROUP} members -- and at the election of
the Constituency -- to the public."
c.. Krista Papac agreed to review Claudio DiGangi's suggested language
(added to the wiki) to Section 4. Voting as it also could be applied to Section
1. Executive Committees to maintain consistency.
B) REMAINING SECTIONS: Work Team members should review the remaining
sections of Task 1, Subtask 2 and send comments to the list:
a.. 9. GNSO WG;
b.. 10. Reference to Code of Practice at Annex B (and Annex B text);
c.. 11. Reference to Handbook on Common Rules and Principles;
d.. 12. Reference to recommendations applying to Contracted House
Stakeholder Groups; and
e.. Part IV: Analysis
2. Task 1, Subtask 3: Julie will load the latest version from Krista on the
wiki. Work Team members are requested to review the document in preparation for
the meeting on Friday, 09 April.
3. Task 2: Outreach: Debbie Hughes will provide some ideas to begin the
discussion on the Sub Team. The Sub Team members are: Debbie (leader), Olga
Cavalli, Rafik Dammak, Claudio DiGangi, Chuck Gomes, and Michael Young.
Summary:
a.. Olga noted that Philip Sheppard, the new Chair of the Operations
Steering Committee, has requested that the Work Team complete its work by 01
June in preparation for the ICANN meeting in Brussels. Olga explained to Philip
that the Work Team might not be able to complete Task 2, but would complete the
remaining subtasks of Task 1. She recommended that the Work Team should finish
Task 1, Subtask 2 by the next meeting and begin a review of Task 1, Subtask 3,
and asked Krista to send the latest version for Julie to load on the wiki.
b.. The Work Team discussed additional changes to Section 1. Elections
and Section 4. Voting. Claudio provided revised language to the list for
consideration. Krista agreed to review Section 1. Elections in view of
Claudio's revised language.
c.. The Work Team agreed to retain the previous changes in Section 5.
Voting. Rafik agreed to ask Mary Wong if she had suggestions for alternative
language for Section 8. Policy, paragraph b. "Committee meetings should be open
for attendance by all Constituency {GROUP} members -- and at the election of
the Constituency -- to the public."
d.. On Task 2, Olga asked for volunteers for a Task Sub Team. Debbie
Hughes agreed to be the leader of the Sub Team and the other volunteers were:
Olga Cavalli, Rafik Dammak, Claudio DiGangi, Chuck Gomes, and Michael Young.
e..
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