Re: [gnso-osc-ops] substitute members in the council

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

You are right about the face to face meeting, but there is not real notion of 
real-time observation for teleconferences, and I guess that was my main 
question.  At this point, and I have heard of no plans to change this, 
observation of the teleconference every 3 weeks is only after the fact via the 
recordings.  and since the information for the calls is sent on a separate non 
archived information only list, one does not even have the number and code for 
the phone call unless the secretariat sends it to the substitute.  In order for 
a substitute to attend and participate (i guess to the extent allowed by his or 
her SG - if I understand Ray's comments it is the Sg that will decide not only 
when the vote and what the vote but whether they can speak or not) the 
secretariat will have to make some special provision.

a.
 


On 8 Apr 2010, at 11:11, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:

> Avri,
> 
> As someone who observes Council meetings open to observers, I want to
> point out that each of the predicate conditions you mention for any
> substitute to be equally informed and equally capable of acting as the
> voting representative of a seat holding constituent body, that is,
> access to announcements, access to annotations of the minutes, email,
> and discussion participation, if provided to observers, would be
> adequate for the substitute.
> 
> If there is an "as-informed-as" set of access tokens (email, etc), to
> which council observers may request, and absent misuse, obtain, then
> substitutes, who presumably are diligent and conscientious observers,
> by requesting that set of access tokens, are as informed as members.
> 
> I'm not saying this is the only way to do this, but a substitute is
> just an observer until there is a requirement to present the absent
> member's views in discussion, and vote the absent member's seat in voting.
> 
> Eric
> perpetual observer #3 from CORE