Re: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 23 April 2014

[Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I apologise for the same thing, we are tied up here at Netmundial.  I will try 
to attend the next call, April has been a nightmare.
On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for communicating Amr.  Your involvement was missed.  Note that we 
> discussed Mikey O’Connor’s input to the proposed principles along with your 
> responses to his feedback.  Please take note of the new principles document 
> when it is sent.
>  
> Chuck
>  
> From: owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:21 AM
> To: Nathalie Peregrine
> Cc: gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx; gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and 
> Implementation WG meeting - 23 April 2014
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Apologies for not attending yesterday’s teleconference and not apologising in 
> advance. I will most likely not be able to attend the next call either.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amr
>  
> On Apr 24, 2014, at 6:36 AM, Nathalie Peregrine 
> <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> Please note that the next Policy and Implementation Working Group 
> teleconference will be held on Wednesday 30th April 2014 at 1900 UTC.
>  
> Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group 
> call held on Wednesday 23 April 2014 at 19:00 UTC at:
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> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20140423-en.mp3
>  
>  On page: 
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr
>  
>  The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
> Calendar page:
> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
>  
> Attendees:
> Chuck Gomes – RySG
> J.Scott Evans – BC
> Greg Shatan – IPC
> Nic Steinbach – RrSG
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr – At-Large
> Brian Winterfeldt – IPC
> James Bladel – RrSG
>  
> Apologies:
> Wolf-Ullrich Knoben – ISPCP
> Olga Cavalli - GAC
> Alan Greenberg - ALAC
>  
> ICANN staff:
> Marika Konings 
> Mary Wong
> Amy Bivins
> Nathalie Peregrine
>  
> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
>  
>  
>  Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag
>  
> Thank you.
> Kind regards,
> Nathalie Peregrine
>  
> Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 23 April 2014:
>   Nathalie  Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Policy and Implementation 
> Working Group call on the 23rd April 2014
>   J. Scott Evans:dialing in now
>   Chuck:Waiting for operator
>   Chuck:Thanks Marika for logging in as a participant
>   Greg Shatan:Waiting for operator, too.
>   Nathalie  Peregrine:J.Scott is on
>   Greg Shatan:Speaking to operator.
>   Greg Shatan:I'm in.
>   Brian J. Winterfeldt:I'm not sure I heard my name but I am here!  :)
>   Brian J. Winterfeldt:Thank you.
>   Marika Konings:For some reason you only see part of the work plan in AC
>   Brian J. Winterfeldt:+1
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all ok
>   Michael R. Graham:in both b and c we have the ""right to challenge whether" 
> language.  I wonder if this might be revised in both places to  "right to 
> review whether . . ." and at end of sentences, "and challenge such 
> updates/changes if identified as having policy implications" or such
>   Bladel:I am dialing in....sorry for the delay.
>   Bladel:Nathalie - can you ping the operator and ask them to pick up?
>   Marika Konings:@James - that option already exists in the current PDP 
> Manual ;-)
>   Bladel:Wondering why wasn't it used during implementation of TMCH or other 
> gTLD changes?
>   Marika Konings:From the PDP Manual: ICANN Staff should inform the GNSO of 
> its proposed implementation of a new GNSO recommendedpolicy. If the proposed 
> implementation is considered inconsistent with the GNSO 
> Council’srecommendations, the GNSO Council may notify the Board and request 
> that the Board review theproposed implementation. Until the Board has 
> considered the GNSO Council request, ICANN Staffshould refrain from 
> implementing the policy, although it may continue developing the details of 
> theproposed implementation while the Board considers the GNSO Council request.
>   Bladel:How about:  "In all cases, all material changes must be communicated 
> to the GNSO Council, which maintains the right to review the changes, 
> determine whether or not they are supported by tthe intent of the policy 
> recommendations, and modfiy the implementation accordingly."
>   Marika Konings:could we change it to 'any changes' to clarify that in 
> addition to material changes, the Council can always back to 'any' change?
>   Marika Konings:meaning the second 'changes' in that sentence
>   Chuck:@ Marika: Your differentiation between b & c makes sense.
>   Bladel:Just to be clear==my comments about frustration are NEVer directed 
> at Policy Staff.  They are my heroes! :)
>   Marika Konings::-)))
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:in a clear, coherent and unambiguous way yes @Chuck... 
> but I can not volunteer this week due to other pressures...
>   Bladel:I need to check calendar but may be able to volunteer
>   Marika Konings:I'm happy to assist from the staff side
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bless you (again) @Marika :-) :-) :-)
>   Greg Shatan:I can assist but not lead.
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:James???
>   J. Scott Evans:If we can have 2 weeks and set up a call for next monday at 
> noon, I will help.
>   Marika Konings:I can get a thread going between Greg, James and I and we 
> can see where we get before next Wednesday?
>   Bladel:Go ahead and put me down on the list and I'll do my best. :)
>   Cheryl Langdon-Orr:very good if you can @james. yes
>   Nic Steinbach:marika can you add me as well?
>   Marika Konings:@Nic - noted
>   Marika Konings:I can start a thread tomorrow morning (European time) and we 
> can take it from there?