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Re: [gnso-raa-b] Revised draft of Section V

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  • Subject: Re: [gnso-raa-b] Revised draft of Section V
  • From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:12:23 +0000


On 19 May 2010, at 20:07, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:

> 
> I agree with Avri on this point, and believe it is consistent with BC
> positions re the RAA.

Mike

So is this a BC position or your personal position?

If it is your personal position why are you referencing the BC? 

Are you speaking as a member of the BC or as the BC as a whole?

Please clarify

Regards

Michele


> 
> Mike Rodenbaugh
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-raa-b@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-raa-b@xxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: gnso-raa-b@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-raa-b] Revised draft of Section V 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you.  Can I suggest a minor change:
> 
>> One SubTeam member declined to support either proposed process, stating
> that representatives of registrants, commercial and non-commercial users and
> other affected parties should be full participants in the negotiation.   
> 
> 
> 
> s/parties/ICANN Stakeholders/
> 
> 
> One SubTeam member declined to support either proposed process, stating that
> representatives of registrants, commercial and non-commercial users and
> other affected ICANN Stakeholders should be full participants in the
> negotiation.   
> 
> And of course if anyone else agrees (which I would expect from the
> discussion in the meeting) then perhaps 'one' can be upped to 'two' 'a few'
> 'several' ...
> 
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> a.
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2010, at 13:45, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for this Avri.  Let me say that I agree that this issue will be
>> decided in the GNSO council and nothing in the report limits the options
>> of anyone in the council deliberations.  
>> 
>> In the attached I have inserted a sentence meant to reflect your view
>> stated below.  Of course you should feel free to edit or prepare your
>> own.  If you have other ideas about how this should be reflected in our
>> report, please advise.  
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gnso-raa-b@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-raa-b@xxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Avri Doria
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:44 PM
>> To: gnso-raa-b@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-raa-b] Revised draft of Section V 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know that I have not participated in this group, only monitored its
>> mailing list.  And while there was nothing much controversial in parts
>> 1-4, iI find that both options list in 5 are unsatisfactory.
>> 
>> We will be discussing this in the NCSG, but it will be my recommendation
>> that neither of these options be supported in council but that the issue
>> be discussed further to find a solution that includes greater inclusion
>> in the discussion by the ICANN Stakeholders - especially the registrants
>> but also both commercial and non commercial users.  The idea that even
>> in the majority recommendation, the observers can be excluded is
>> unacceptable.  While I was originally personally willing to  accept the
>> status of Observer for non Registrar participants, by which I mean full
>> transparency and full participation except for decision making,  after
>> thinking further of the conditions being imposed and re-listening to
>> some of the contribution made at yesterday's meeting, I have come to
>> personally accept the position that full dialogue must be insisted upon.
>> 
>> a.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 May 2010, at 11:39, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
>> 
>>> SubTeam B participants,
>>> Hi,
>>> Following up on yesterday's call, attached please find a proposed
>> revision of section V of the Initial Draft Report.  It lays out the two
>> options for "next steps," and includes a draft of a brief supporting
>> statement for the option that commands Strong Support within the
>> SubTeam.  I understand that one of the registrar representatives
>> (perhaps Statton?) will draft a statement of similar length for the
>> alternative approach.  Of course, your comments and edits on anything in
>> this document are welcomed.  Please circulated these as soon as
>> possible, and in any case by Thursday of this week, so that we can stay
>> on track for circulation of a "final" draft by staff no later than next
>> Monday.  Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> Steve Metalitz
>>> 
>>> <<Section V draft (2697426).DOC>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <Section V draft (2697426).DOC>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <Section V draft -2 (2697426-2).DOC>
> 
> 

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