Re: [gnso-travel-dt] Travel policy lunch with staff

[Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Zahid again.
I will prepare a draft document to share with the list once I have recieved
all the comments.
Regards
Olga

2009/3/4 Zahid Jamil <zahid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Also:  what would be the US$ difference between the monetary amount of
> travel support provided to the GNSO today and the monetary amount of travel
> support for ALL GNSO Councillors?
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> Sent: 05 March 2009 03:13
> To: 'Olga Cavalli'; gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx; 'Glen de Saint Géry'
> Subject: RE: [gnso-travel-dt] Travel policy lunch with staff
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> Also - we need a detailed breakdown of the GNSO travel support budget.
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> Zahid Jamil
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> Barrister-at-law
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> Jamil & Jamil
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> From: Zahid Jamil [mailto:zahid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 05 March 2009 03:08
> To: 'Olga Cavalli'; gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx; 'Glen de Saint Géry'
> Subject: RE: [gnso-travel-dt] Travel policy lunch with staff
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> My points:
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> All Councillors should be funded.
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> ·         The GNSO should have travel support.  Why:
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> ·         The Board has given us a herculean task for implementation of
> improvements and restructuring.  The numerous Cs, WGs, DTs etc.  all
> require
> bodies to man these structures.  We have a deficit of manpower and
> resource.
> Although this work has been assigned in these times (especially this
> economically difficult times) the Budget travel support is the same as last
> year.  Hence, technically the work assigned is unsupported/unfunded.  The
> workload of the GNSO is at least in these times enormous and it would be
> unrealistic for the structures to work by volunteers being stretched beyond
> limits especially without travel support. (this implies the support is not
> restricted to the 3 ICANN meetings for only Councillors but may include WG
> and DT members as the Constituencies may nominate)
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> Whether all or some are funded:
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> ·         The budgeted amount for GNSO should be monetized and divided
> equally between Constituencies (possibly SGs if there is a proliferation of
> Constituencies)
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> ·         The Constituencies should decide who, how many and when to
> allocate the travel funding
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> ·         Constituency allocation should be transparent but at the
> discretion of the Constituency
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> ·         If in one Financial Year a Constituency does not utilise and
> saves
> its allocation that allocation should be reserved and rolled over into
> travel reserves for the next FY in addition to the budget allocation for
> the
> next FY - this will allow Constituencies to plan their work which are
> usually 2 to 3 year projects over the years by planning financially over
> the
> 2-3 year period instead of having compulsorily to utilise the amount
> allocated per year in that year.  So the 2-3 year work plan should not be
> constrained by a limitation of the FY utilisation.
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> Zahid Jamil
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> Barrister-at-law
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> Jamil & Jamil
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> Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 5655025
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> From: owner-gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
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> On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
> Sent: 05 March 2009 02:47
> To: gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx; Glen de Saint Géry
> Subject: [gnso-travel-dt] Travel policy lunch with staff
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> Notes from the meeting with staff in relation with Travel Policy
>
> Wednesday March 4th, 12:30 - 14 hs
>
> GNSO council members present:
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> Zahid Jamil
> Stefan Van Helder
> Greg Ruth
> Tim Ruiz
> Olga Cavalli
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> Norbert Klein - Noncom
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> ICANN Staff
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> Kevin...
> Doug Brent
> Stacy Hoffberg
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> What we expressed:
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> All GNSO council members should be founded to attend ICANN meetings.
> All council members volunteer their time and the GNSO amount of work is a
> lot.
> The amount of work in GNSO is highly increasing due to the GNSO
> restructuring and the different steering commitees and working groups that
> council members participate in.
> It could be good if constituencies recieve funds and they distribute these
> funds among their members.
> If they want highly qualified people to volunteer their time to ICANN they
> should pay to all travel expenses.
>
> What Olga expressed: GNSO should have same treatment like Board members in
> relation with travelling. GNSO is a lot of work and responsibility and we
> all volunteer our time.
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> What ICANN staff said:
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> Present ICANN Budget for travel 1,5 MUSD.
> Today all ALAC is founded.
> Some ccNSO members are founded.
> Half GNSO members are founded.
> GAC is asking for travel founds.
> It could be helpful if GNSO prepares a draft document that justifies
> founding all council members (workload, volunteer time, etc)
> It may be a unified position or different views of the same issue but all
> in
> a document produced by GNSO.
> ICANN long term goal is to collect money to benefir larger community with
> its work.
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>
> Zahid, could you please add more detail into the last part of the
> conversation about keeping money from one year budget to the following
> year?
> I could not get the whole idea of this last part of the meeting.
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> Please those who were presen add other comments that perhaps I missed.
>
> Next steps:
>
> I could draft a new document taking these comments and using our previous
> agreed document about travel policy and then I send it to the drafting team
> list for your comments.
> Then we should send it to GNSO list.
>
> I will welcome your comments.
> Regards
> Olga
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