RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Key dates for our group

[Milton L Mueller <mueller@xxxxxxx>]

OK, since the so-called Wiki is just a private document that no one can change, 
here are some comments the old-fashioned way.

1. The definition of CO is not even close to what was agreed on the list. Here 
is an alternate definition that I know Jeff and I agreed on and I think 
Stephane agreed with after deleting the sentence referring to VI:

"Cross ownership" is defined as the ownership of a controlling share of a 
registry by a registrar, or vice-versa, while maintaining the contractual and 
functional separation and equal access arrangements required by ICANN policies 
and contracts. 

2. The second objective is badly phrased: 

"Objective 2: Does the recommendation made in DAGv3 meet the criteria of that 
clear direction. If not, make recommendations on how those criteria can be met."

There are two things wrong with this. Language-wise, what "criteria" are being 
referred to here?  The prior objective does not use the term "criteria" but 
rather calls for "policies and procedures." So the phrase "the criteria of that 
clear direction has no referent. Second, we seem to be opening the door to have 
the WG redraft the DAG. 

I strongly believe that the second objective needs to be rephrased completely 
along these lines:

"Objective 2: Determine whether the cross-ownership and joint marketing 
arrangements contemplated by the DAGv3 recommendations are allowable under 
current policy."

--MM 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Margie Milam
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:05 PM
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder; Avri Doria
> Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Key dates for our group
> 
> 
> Yes-  I will use Avri's work product on the charter.
> 
> Margie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:11 AM
> To: Avri Doria
> Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Key dates for our group
> 
> 
> Thanks Avri for getting this going (although I don't have the passwords to
> access the page you have linked to).
> 
> Margie, can you confirm that you are picking this up where Avri left off?
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 8 févr. 2010 à 16:08, Avri Doria a écrit :
> 
> >
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > i got caught up and started the following.  but since you are now doing
> it, i will leave it to you.
> >
> > https://st.icann.org/ad_test/index.cgi?charter_for_pdp_vi
> >
> >
> > a.
> >
> > On 8 Feb 2010, at 15:42, Margie Milam wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry- Chuck for not responding earlier.  I will do a basic charter to
> circulate to the group.
> >>
> >> Margie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:31 AM
> >> To: Stéphane Van Gelder; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Cc: Margie Milam
> >> Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Key dates for our group
> >>
> >> I had asked Margie, who I believe is the primary Policy Staff support
> person for this to prepare a basic charter with all of the standard stuff,
> but I don't think she responsed.  That should make the task easier by
> allowing the DT to focus on the key terms of reference and tasks.
> >>
> >> Margie - can you do this?
> >>
> >> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-
> feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> >> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 5:59 AM
> >> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] Key dates for our group
> >>
> >> Just a reminder to the group that there are a couple of key dates we
> need to be mindful of.
> >>
> >> The first is set by the motion that initiated the current process,
> stating that "that the Working Group shall deliver its Final Report to the
> GNSO Council no later than sixteen weeks from the date of this
> resolution." By my count, that puts the deadline for the WG at May 18,
> 2010.
> >>
> >> The second is the date suggested during Council discussions for the DT
> to submit a draft charter. 30 days were suggested from the date of the
> resolution, so that's Feb 28, 2010 by my count.
> >>
> >> That being the case, I think it would be good for the group to start
> working on a charter. Are there any volunteers to write a first draft and
> put it to the list for comments?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Stéphane
> >
> >
> 
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