RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] 360 Degree Market Analysis with a focus on the consumer

["Michael D. Palage" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Michele,

With regard to Comcast they currently offer me a free email and small web
storage package. They are also one of the first major US ISPs to roll out
IPV6 so there might be able to provide me some IPSEC/digital cert services
to offer me to secure access to my home network while on the road. Right now
I have the email address michael@xxxxxxxxxx which my 10 year old son seems
to want, michael@palage.comcast would probably appeal to him. My old ISP
AT&T use to bundle free access to wireless hotspots.

With regard to what innovative features Comcast, AT&T and other ISPs might
be able to offer how about we let them surprise us, and not require them to
prove their business model before giving them a change. The following text
is an excerpt from a power point slide presentation the UPU gave in
connection with the .POST TLD:


"You're intending to make a ship sail against the wind and tide by lighting
a fire below deck? I don't have time to listen to that kind of nonsense."
                The French Emperor Napoleon on the plans of Robert Fulton to
design a steam boat.

"Radio is such a fashion contrivance that will soon die out. It is obvious
that there will never be invented a proper receiver."
                Thomas Edison, American Inventor

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
                Ken Olsen, founder of Digital Equipment, in 1977

"Are you finding that the Internet is a big thing?" 
                Jane Hulbert , McDonald's media person in 1994

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny."
                 Isaac Asimov

I hope this is sufficiently logical to you to enable certain entities to try
and provide direct registration services to their existing customers?

Best regards,

Michael






-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight [mailto:michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:18 PM
To: Michael D. Palage
Cc: Jothan Frakes; <Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] 360 Degree Market Analysis with a focus on the
consumer


On 26 Mar 2010, at 20:14, Michael D. Palage wrote:

> Jothan,
>  
> I think as a working group we need to undertake a 360 degree analysis of
the marketplace . Than being said I think the primary focus should be on
what is in the best interest of consumers. 
>  
> Getting back to the examples used in the survey. I selected .COMCAST as an
hypothetical TLD because they are my current ISP of choice. I am generally
happy with the service that Comcast provides me, therefore why do I need to
interject another party between me and my ISP?

And what exactly would .comcast in this scenario give you?

I'm trying to understand your logic but am failing.



> While I would view this as a nuisance, what would the impact/inconvenience
be on less sophisticated users. In the PENDR Working Group I often used the
benchmark of does this proposed policy make this easier or more difficult
for my mom to use the Internet?
>  
> Another hypothetical omitted from the survey was that of a .LAW TLD.  As
an attorney I pay annual membership fees to the State Bar, it would be a lot
more convenient for me as a consumer to interact with them to ensure that
any additional whois elements necessary for my inclusion into the .LAW TLD
were taken care of by them since they already have that data.  While I am
happy GoDaddy customer in connection with my  existing gTLD registrations,
having GoDaddy stand between me and the .LAW registry does not represent my
best interests, does not increase my user experience, and is likely to
impede innovation and choice.

Well I'd also assume that your State Bar isn't the only organisation that
would want to be able to offer .law domains to its members - I'd also
suspect that they wouldn't be in a position technically or otherwise to
provide all the other services that a registrar would normally provide
(either directly or via its resellers / agents)  such as:

- dns
- email hosting
- website hosting
- technical support

So as a consumer you'd probably get pretty terrible service if the State Bar
was running a TLD

Now if they were an authorised agent / reseller of a registrar offering .law
I can see how that would work .. 

Regards

Michele





>  
> Just my two cents.
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Michael
>  
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> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jothan Frakes
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:28 PM
> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] Looking at this from the Registrars as Channel
Perspective and that benefit...
>  
> Hi-
> 
> In our efforts within the VIWG, I have noticed and it has been brought to
my attention that we're looking at things through the prism angle of the
registry.
> 
> I am in no way expressing the Registrar Stakeholder perspective on this,
nor have I vetted this message with them.  I want only to aid the dialog
within this working group by taking a perspective of the registrar channel
into consideration in the process of our efforts.
> 
> For the benefit of the list activities, I would encourage people
interested in some of the things that a registrar might be taking into
consideration in the new TLD launch process
> to view a presentation that I did in October of 2008 at the CENTR General
Assembly in Piza, Italy.  
> 
> The presentation is from an aggregated applicant perspective and
discussions that had occurred in Paris at the 2008 meeting and takes into
consideration bullet points from conversations with many of the applicants
and communities seeking to apply for new TLDs.
> 
> Applicants (not to me confused with registries or registry service
providers) look to the registrars as a channel to reach a larger audience,
adoption, and ultimately natural use.  Registrars come in a variety of types
of services and business models, support a variety of languages, and offer
cultural and local advantages due to geographical diversity.
> 
> Slides 7-10 are related to 'Channel' and worth a look because they focus
in a little bit on those areas.
> https://www.centr.org/main/lib/g1/4622-CTR.html (click download)
> 
> I'll caveat the slides to state that there was no DAG available at the
time the presentation was made, and that presentation predates the 2009 RAA
and any nuances that it contains which might have changed since would not be
reflected.
> 
> Still, the information contained in it might prove helpful for our
discussions, take what you like and leave the rest.
> 
> -jothan
> 
> Jothan Frakes
> +1.206-355-0230 tel
> +1.206-201-6881 fax

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