Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] poll - Too early to ask these questions

[Richard Tindal <richardtindal@xxxxxx>]

Berry,

What do you mean by strict separation?

Does it mean not just corporate separation but also financial and operational 
separation - along the lines PIR has proposed?

RT


On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Berry Cobb wrote:

> 
> VI Team,
> 
> I agree with polling, but I also believe the type of poll questions are 
> premature.  Instead, we should be asking more general questions. For example,
> 
> 1.  Do you agree with the boards latest position of 0CO and strict separation?
> 
> 2.  Do you prefer to maintain 0CO and strict separation going forward?
> 
> 3.  Do you agree with partial cross ownership and strict separation for new 
> gTLDs?  Existing TLDs?
> 
> 4.  Do agree with full cross ownership and relaxing strict separation?
> 
> 5.  Do you agree that changes should be made to accommodate SR?
> 
> 6. Etc...... I am sure there are many more general questions.
> 
> I do believe this type of temperature gauging across the group will be 
> useful.  I also agree that the poll should indicate the poll taker's 
> affiliation per Jeff Neuman's comment below.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Berry Cobb
> Infinity Portals LLC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:21:01 
> To: 'Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx'<Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] poll - Too early to ask these questions
> 
> 
> Let me second (third?) this motion as well. I do think it will be
> helpful to collect the opinions regarding the various proposals for an
> early assessment of positions, but there still needs to be a lot of
> discussion regarding the various positions before we can come to an
> actual  vote.
> 
> I see a lot of merit in Janniks proposal. Like JC said: Less process
> more substance!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Volker
>> I want to second Statton’s comment here. Having duly listened in on all the 
>> calls and read (most) of the emails so far, I am nowhere near a “black and 
>> white” view to be put on a poll. Additionaly, the “signal/noise” ratio of 
>> the list has made things even harder at times.
>> 
>> Maybe we could devote most of Monday’s call to allow for some discussions on 
>> the proposals themselves? Less process more substance!
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> Jean-Christophe
>> 
>> 
>> Le 16/04/10 16:22, « Hammock, Statton » <shammock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Mikey,
>> 
>> I will finally chime in here and support Jeff’s comment that it is a little 
>> early to ask for our views on each of the proposals. I do like the idea of 
>> the poll but I, personally, need a little more time to analyze the details.  
>> Some of the proposals were just introduced this week, after all.
>> 
>> I have been mostly a “lurker” with respect to the e-mail exchanges on the 
>> list but I have not been doing so with my hands “folded.”  I regularly take 
>> notes on the points being raised by active members of the group and try to 
>> map out where consensus might be found given the various viewpoints.  Some 
>> of the discussions have struck me as being too theoretical but also 
>> practical suggestions and proposals have been introduced and I am trying to 
>> focus on them and really try to get a feel on how this should play out.  
>> Waiting another week for the poll would be helpful to me.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Statton
>> 
>> 
>> Statton Hammock
>> Sr. Director, Law, Policy & Business Affairs
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>> ________________________________
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>> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] 
>> On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:01 AM
>> To: gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] poll - Too early to ask these questions
>> 
>> Mikey,
>> 
>> Although I appreciate the notion of taking polls, I just have the feeling 
>> that it is WAY too early to ask the questions that you have on Poll #1.  
>> Very few of us understand the implications of each of the proposals enough 
>> to be able to comment on whether we support or oppose a particular proposal 
>> much less whether we can fill in the comment sections on any revisions that 
>> we would propose to that particular proposal.  I thought we were going to 
>> form sub-teams to look at the proposals to discuss the pros and cons of each 
>> of the proposals in order to potentially come up with some sort of hybrid or 
>> consensus driven proposal (if possible).
>> 
>> In addition, there is nothing in the survey that asks the responder to 
>> declare its interests (namely, (a) to check all that apply….gTLD Registry, 
>> gTLD Registrar, New TLD Applicant, New TLD back-end Registry Services 
>> Provider, etc., and (b) are you in favor of integration or separation….).  I 
>> just think that coming out of this survey saying x number of people support 
>> this proposal without the essential context is going to be misleading 
>> especially with this group being so stacked with New TLD applicants, 
>> registries, registry services providers and registrars).
>> 
>> I would strongly ask that we withdraw this survey for this week in favor of 
>> proceeding as initially proposed.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
>> 46000 Center Oak Plaza Sterling, VA 20166
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