Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] OUR WG TABLE - For Final Inputs!

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

While I do not not want to become someone who is known for defending the Board, 
I think it somewhat slanderous to say the Board did not know what it meant.  I 
think that even the Board understands that - No Means No.  Even children are 
being taught that one these days.

I do believe you are right in the fact that the staff is likely to interpret it 
as it is wishes and that surprise is still awaiting us.  On the other hand e 
words of the motion are out there, and if the staff interprets them other then 
"No Means No" we will have something to comment on in DAGv4.

I do not really care if the line is in the table.  If I remember correctly, it 
was you who started the question rolling of how to interpret the Board's 
relatively straightforward motion (2010.03.12.17). 

And lest we forget:

> Resolved (2010.03.12.18), if a policy becomes available from the GNSO, and 
> approved by the Board prior to the launch of the new gTLD program, that 
> policy will be considered by the Board for adoption as part of the New gTLD 
> Program.

Notice on this one, it does not say before DAGv4 but 'prior to the launch'.


a.


On 15 May 2010, at 22:20, Neuman, Jeff wrote:

> Avri,
> 
> I would not make those changes to the line on what the Board's motion means 
> as I now firmly believe not even the board knew what it meant. The staff will 
> interpret it as they see fit, so actually, I think we should just remove the 
> whole line about what the Board's proposal is.  If the Board doesn't know 
> what it means, we should not be reading into what some people on this believe 
> it means....and frankly a number of people on this list have said "who cares 
> what the board meant."  
> 
> So please delete the whole line.  We can reinsert in a couple of weeks when 
> the staff issues its vertical integration proclamation.
> 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
> 
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> 
> Hi Kathy,
> 
> Re MMA - what you there reflects the first MMA but not the update.
> 
> in the second the initial Cross ownership was 0 with the possibility to 
> request more.
> 
> (i am sure the M&Ms will correct me if i am wrong.)
> 
> And we were working on a third update to reflect the comments we had gotten, 
> but it sounds like it is getting a bit late for any more input and we have 
> not reached consensus on it ourselves yet.
> 
> 
> 
> also on the Board's line:
> 
> as i read the motion:
> 
>>> there will be strict separation of entities offering registry services and 
>>> those acting as registrar.  No co-ownership will be allowed.
> 
> 
> i think the Board row should read:
> 
> 
> 0=0  as  RSPs offer Registry services
> P=0  as  RSPs offer Registry services
> 
> Incidentally if we wish to add extra columns for control as well as just CO  
> - since  strict separation covers control as well as cross-ownership - those 
> would be 0 as well in the Board motion - and i expect in MMA as the starting 
> point as well.
> 
> Q=yes if it is acting as a registrar (this one has some wiggle room since 
> they don't always act as registrars)
> 
> R=n/a
> 
> I wasn't going to get into the game of 'what's your interpretation'  but 
> since we are putting it into a table, I figured i should indicate how I saw 
> it since it seems to differ from what is there.
> 
> a.
> 
> 
>