Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] What would "a system that keeps registries and registrars in line" look like?

[Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Eric,

you repeat a good question, one that I have been trying to get us all to 
discuss for a while now, so I am thankful for your input.
If you want to know if I already have such a fully developed system in 
my pocket, I must respond in the negative. If you are however asking if 
I believe that we can work out a functioning system if we set our minds 
to it and discuss this instead of losing ourselves in unfruitful and 
pointless debates about arbitrary percentages, the answer is affirmative.
For example, I do support the proposed system of pre-checks as proposed 
in the CAM proposal. This will have to be supplemented with a firm 
structure of checks, controls and penalties. First we need to exploit 
the specific exploits and harms that would arise specifically from 
scenarios of CO and VI. We should then pool specific suggestions of how 
to fix those problems. Whatever suggestion is made, whatever controls 
are proposed, I challenge each one of use to search for and find 
possible exploits and side-effects in order to allow us all to fix these 
problems as well. Not all harms presented to the list so far are related 
to VI/CO at all. Does our mandate extend to such possibilities of abuse?
At the end of the day, our cooperatively developed system would catch 
.travel, shell registrars, what have you, and that without relying on a 
magic number to fix all problems that directly result from CO/VI.
Who will perform these checks? Again, this is to be defined by us. I am 
leaning toward a mix of peer overview, ICANN oversight and independent 
control.
I would much rather tell the board "Look, here is a system we believe 
can reduce or control abuse" than "Look, we think limiting ownership to 
15% will solve all problems. Why? Because this is the number that has 
always been right for everything, a magic cure, if you will". Less 
competition on the registry market will not reduce abuse.
I do not have the perfect solution ready as you seem to imply. It will 
take time to work out, but we are the engineers that should make it 
happen. Let's get to work.
> What would it look like? What would a system that keeps registries and
> registrars in line look like?
>
> Would it, as Ron's pointed out, catch .travel?
>
> How about the shell registrars? Would it catch them?
>
> How can we police ourselves?
>
> Is Verisign barred by contract, because the policing is not merely to
> manage abuse, but also to promote competition policy goals?
>
> Is policing of applicants from outside the OEDC states permissive,
> again because the policing is not merely to manage abuse, but also to
> promote competition policy goals?
>
> Assuming we're not driven stupid by our advocacy goals, what and how
> would we get there?
>
> Is it a million euros-or-dollars a year accounting and compliance
> project? Ten times that? What?
>
> I'm happy telling Staff and the Board to spend money on something
> useful, but what is it?
>
> Eric
>   

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