Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU Exception Text - Revised - DIR?

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Good point Volker.

I believe exceptions need to be exempt from all three scenarios you describe. 
That is my read of what the WG has discussed and theorized.

Stéphane

Le 21 juil. 2010 à 15:40, Volker Greimann a écrit :

> 
> I do as well, but I am unsure if we all agree on the intent of the direction:
> 
> As I see it, there is the following main subdefinitions of exceptions:
> 
> a) SRSU as an exception to equal registrar access
> b) SRSU as an exception to registrar-registry co-ownership
> c) SRSU as an exception to registrar ability to act as RSP.
> 
> The acceptance of the different forms of exception depends largeliy on the 
> basic outlook on VI/CO favored by the WG-member. It also depends largely on 
> the definition of SRSU, and what forms of domain names will be allowable 
> under said exception. For example, I favor a very narrow definition of SRSU, 
> allowing no form of distribution of individual domain names, while others 
> consider distribution amongst "members" affiliates, or franchisees as 
> acceptable.
> 
> Volker
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> i agree there is good support for the SRSU concept
>> 
>> RT
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Rosette, Kristina wrote:
>> 
>>> Back online 90 minutes after 2400 GMT (as promised earlier) and I
>>> object.   Tim's text has been out for comments for far shorter time than
>>> the other sections.  I, for one, have been too busy working on the SRSU
>>> section and IP summary to focus on it.
>>> 
>>> It's my understanding that there is broad support for the idea of an
>>> SRSU exception even if there is no general agreement on the specific
>>> iteration. JN2 have an SRSU, BRU1 has one, and (drumroll, please) IPC
>>> and NCSG are in agreement on the need for one.  If that's not broad
>>> support, what is?  Seriously.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:43 PM
>>> To: Tim Ruiz
>>> Cc: gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU Exception Text - Revised - DIR?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> coolio.
>>> 
>>> others?  going once...
>>> 
>>> i'm still in heavy-edit mode, but my goal is to be done in a couple
>>> hours.  so speak soon.  :-)
>>> 
>>> mikey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Perfect.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> Sent from Go Daddy Mobile Mail using my iPad!
>>>> 
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU Exception Text - Revised - DIR?
>>>>> From: Mike O'Connor<mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 7:31 pm
>>>>> To: Tim Ruiz<tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Cc: gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> seems to me that they can get introduced as such
>>>>> 
>>>>> - use your language as the introduction
>>>>> 
>>>>> - move the more-detailed write-ups to the Annexes
>>>>> 
>>>>> - note that these are still in very early stages of discussion,
>>>>> represent an early draft from a subset of the group, and that we
>>>>> welcome ideas from the broader community
>>>>> 
>>>>> something like that work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> mikey
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If they go in, how will it be made clear that those sections only
>>>>>> represent the ideas of a small subset of the WG? They did not even
>>>>>> exist when we did the poll! At best they are more or less minority
>>> reports.
>>>>>> The only general agreement that exists is for what I am proposing
>>>>>> goes in their place.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>> Sent from Go Daddy Mobile Mail using my iPad!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU Exception Text - Revised - DIR?
>>>>>>> From: Jothan Frakes<jothan@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 6:56 pm
>>>>>>> To: "Mike O'Connor"<mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Cc: Tim Ruiz<tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have put some thought into it and I think it is worth including
>>>>>>> Kristina and Brian's summaries, even though I saw the wisdom of the
>>>>>>> 4 points Tim eloquently stated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Jothan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jothan Frakes
>>>>>>> +1.206-355-0230 tel
>>>>>>> +1.206-201-6881 fax
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Mike O'Connor<mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> i know -- but at a minimum i'd like to hear from the other two
>>> "summarizers" before proceeding that way...  Brian, Kristina, others,
>>> what say you?
>>>>>>>> mikey
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Again, I would rather we use my suggested text to replace all
>>>>>>>>> three of these sections - Exceptions, SRSU, and Compliance. I
>>>>>>>>> believe there several others who were in agreement that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>> Sent from Go Daddy Mobile Mail using my iPad!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU Exception Text - Revised - DIR?
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rosette, Kristina"<krosette@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 20, 2010 4:38 pm
>>>>>>>>>> To:<gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here's revised SRSU exception
>>>>>>>>>> text that incorporates some
>>>>>>>>>> (not all) of Eric's changes
>>>>>>>>>> and most of Jeff N.'s wording
>>>>>>>>>> (I tweaked it slightly by
>>>>>>>>>> adding /SRMU and using .brand
>>>>>>>>>> and .ngo).  I didn't receive
>>>>>>>>>> any other changes.
>>>>>>>>>> I've left a placeholder for
>>>>>>>>>> other exception text (Richard
>>>>>>>>>> - HINT!).  I've also left a
>>>>>>>>>> placeholder for text that sets
>>>>>>>>>> out the criticisms of SRSU.  I
>>>>>>>>>> think it's important to
>>>>>>>>>> include that - not only for
>>>>>>>>>> balance, but to help those who
>>>>>>>>>> may submit public comments.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is DIR,
>>>>>>>>>> but I have to offline until
>>>>>>>>>> after 2400 GMT so am sending
>>>>>>>>>> it along now.  (I will be back
>>>>>>>>>> online about 90 minutes after
>>>>>>>>>> 2400 GMT if that helps.)
>>>>>>>>>> Our document comparison
>>>>>>>>>> software is offline so I can't
>>>>>>>>>> generate a redline. Apologies.
>>>>>>>>>> K
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