RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Fwd: ICANN News Alert -- Public Comment: Initial Report on Vertical Integration Between Registrars and Registries

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Stéphane,

 

A Final Report would be great but it can’t be done if the group hasn’t reached 
consensus on recommendations.  By its very nature, the Final Report assumes 
that the WG is finished, i.e., they have done as much as they can do and they 
have either decided to make some recommendations or they have decided that it 
is not possible to reach consensus on any recommendations.  That does not seem 
to be the case here so my understanding is that the WG will continue its work.  
In the meantime, the Board needs input for its retreat, so my suggestion is to 
send them a Revised Initial Report that includes any changes to the Initial 
Report based on public comments and continuing work of the WG during the 
comment period.

 

Chuck

 

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:20 AM
To: Mike O'Connor
Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Fwd: ICANN News Alert -- Public Comment: Initial 
Report on Vertical Integration Between Registrars and Registries

 

I'm surprised that Chuck wouldn't push for the group to provide it's final 
report asap, and certainly in time for it to be used by the Board at it's 
September retreat. But as you point out, the timing may just be too tough to 
achieve that. Let's hope the Board still takes into account the work the WG has 
done, if it decides to come to a final decision on VI during it's retreat...

 

Stéphane

Envoyé de mon iPhone4


Le 24 juil. 2010 à 14:29, Mike O'Connor <mike@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

        hi Stéphane

         

        thanks a lot for the kind words.  here in the Midwestern part of the US 
we're pretty undemonstrative, so you'll just have to imagine me hanging my 
head, shuffling my feet and muttering "aw shucks."  :-)

         

        just one quick clarification on the August deadline.  Chuck has asked 
us to deliver an "updated Interim report" for the August 26th Council meeting, 
not a Final report.  i noticed this when we were trading date/deadline email 
and phoned him up to confirm that.  after which i heaved a huge sigh of relief. 
 we've buried some pretty tough issues in those 3 Principles Annexes and i was 
really scratching my head over how we were ever going to get those resolved in 
3 weeks, during Holiday season.

         

        turns out, we don't have to.  basically, the only thing we **have** to 
do between now and then is update the Interim report we've submitted with a 
summary of the public comments.  everything else we decide to drive into that 
report is a bonus.  if we can resolve some of those issues, great.  if we 
can't, we'll leave them as is and work on them at a more relaxed pace, maybe 
after we've gotten a hint from the results of the September Board retreat.  

         

        that said, i'd like us to spend the call on Monday trying to figure out 
a reasonable list of things that we think we *can* sharpen up for the draft we 
submit to the Council.  it seems to me the biggest opportunities are:

         

                - identify the major points of disagreement in the 3 Principles 
annexes, and then focus on a few that we think we can might be able to resolve 
in the 3 weeks we've got 

                 

                - continue to mash and merge and combine and blend Proposals to 
see if we can arrive at a smaller number, and perhaps one that has enough 
support that we could move from "no consensus" to "rough consensus with a 
strong minority"

         

        that said, if everybody throws rocks at me and shouts "lighten up, 
Mikey" i'll heed your wishes.  Mikey the Super-Pressure Ogre has left the 
stage.  :-)

         

        thanks again Stéphane,

         

        mikey

         

         

        On Jul 24, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:

        
        
        

        Mikey,

         

        You deserve an amazingly large round of applause in my view. You've 
steered the group through tense moments and an incredibly tough schedule with a 
constant sense of humour and of purpose. In my part of the world, people would 
probably say you're just a genuine good bloke. I agree.

         

        Well done to Roberto and all the Staff support people as well.

         

        And well done to the group as a whole. I wonder if ICANN realizes how 
lucky it is to be able to call on nearly 70 volunteers to give so much of their 
time, expertise, intelligence and effort into trying to find solutions on 
topics like this one. I certainly hope the Board does. And I know that the GNSO 
Council certainly does.

         

        Now we can look forward to the group completing its final report in 
August! (In my book, you can't just send a message full of praise like this one 
without adding at least one little pressure point in there ;) ).

         

        Stéphane

        Le 24 juil. 2010 à 03:06, Mike O'Connor a écrit :

        
        
        

         

         

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        From: "ICANN News Alert" <communications@xxxxxxxxx>

        Date: July 23, 2010 7:55:56 PM CDT

        To: mike@xxxxxxxxxx

        Subject: ICANN News Alert -- Public Comment: Initial Report on Vertical 
Integration Between Registrars and Registries

        
        
        

          <http://www.icann.org/> 


        News Alert


        http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-23jul10-en.htm

        
________________________________


        Public Comment: Initial Report on Vertical Integration Between 
Registrars and Registries


        23 July 2010

        The GNSO Vertical Integration Working Group is seeking comments on its 
Initial Report on Vertical Integration Between Registrars and Registries. This 
Initial Report 
<http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/vi-pdp-wg-initial-report-23jul10-en.pdf>
  [PDF, 731 KB] is posted for public comment 
<http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/public-comment-201008-en.htm#vi-pdp-initial-report>
  as a required step in the GNSO’s Policy Development Process on Vertical 
Integration between Registrars and Registries. The Initial Report describes 
various proposed solutions for restrictions on vertical integration between 
registrars and registries for adoption in the New gTLD Program.

        Please note: The Working Group is working under an extremely aggressive 
schedule in order to meet the requirements that have been placed on it by the 
GNSO Council and the ICANN Board. The Working Group is planning to continue its 
analysis throughout the public comment period. Reviewers are encouraged to 
submit comments early to provide the group as much time as possible to consider 
them.

        The public comment period ends on 12 August 2010.

        Background:

        The GNSO Council has commenced a policy development process (PDP) on 
the topic of vertical integration between registrars and registries. The GNSO 
Council formed a working group to evaluate whether any policy recommendations 
should be developed on the topic of vertical integration between registrars and 
registries affecting both new gTLDs and existing gTLDs.

        ICANN is currently in the process of finalizing the implementation 
details for the launch of new gTLDs. ICANN has posted four draft applicant 
guidebooks and a series of topic papers for public comment describing the 
manner in which ICANN proposes to implement this program. These documents 
include proposals on the topic of vertical integration and whether 
cross-ownership restrictions or other rules related to vertical integration 
should be adopted to apply to the New gTLD Program.

        The Initial Report describes several proposals regarding vertical 
integration that have been developed and analyzed by the VI Working Group. No 
proposal has achieved consensus support within the VI Working Group. These 
proposals are included for the purpose of seeking public comment and will be 
subject to further analysis and debate as the VI Working Group continues to 
strive to develop a consensus position to recommend to the GNSO Council on an 
expedited basis.

        The Initial Report published for public comment is a “snapshot” of a 
living document that will be revised several times during the public comment 
period. Reviewers are encouraged to check on the working-group wiki for the 
latest version of this Initial Report.

        This public comment forum is an opportunity to comment on any of the 
proposed vertical integration models that are described the Initial Report. The 
Initial Report will be posted for a public comment period that closes on 12 
August 2010. Comments can be sent to vi-pdp-initial-report@xxxxxxxxx and 
reviewed athttp://forum.icann.org/lists/vi-pdp-initial-report/.

        Additional Information:

        To review the Issues Report on Vertical Integration Between Registries 
and Registrars, please refer to 
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/report-04dec09-en.pdf [PDF, 
254 KB].

        The ICANN Board resolution on Vertical Integration is posted at 
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-12mar10-en.htm#5.

        To review the charter describing the policy work undertaken by the 
Vertical Integration Working Group, please refer to: 
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/vi-chartered-objectives-10mar10-en.pdf
 [PDF, 41 KB].

        For information on the details of the implementation planning 
activities for new gTLDs, please refer to the documents posted 
athttp://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm

        To review updates to the Initial Report that may be developed by the VI 
Working Group during the public comment period, please refer to the archive of 
Initial Report snapshots posted at 
https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi?initial_report_snapshots.

        Staff responsible: Margie Milam

        
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