Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before Sao Paulo?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris,

  Yes.  Yes. No. Several of thousand of our members did ask to join and
most never received a response, I myself was rejected on a membership
technicality in regards to membership policy issue that was not documented,
and still isn't, hence my earlier ?'s to you.

Note: I write when using Email not "talk".  I use caps for emphasis
only.

kidsearch wrote:

> Have you tried? Can you talk without caps lock? Do you get my drift? Ask
> them to let you join. They aren't expected to come and invite you I don't
> believe.
>
> Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
> <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before
> Sao Paulo?
>
> > Chris and all,
> >
> >  So "YOU" could join.  Well that's great, but only for "YOU",
> > Chris.  And what exactly has been FIXED for "YOU" to join?
> > In addition is the "FIX" in only for certain individuals?  Are
> > you getting my drift here, Chris?
> >
> > kid search wrote:
> >
> >> Actually they fixed it so I could join. So lets keep an open mind.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> >> <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
> >> <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:07 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements
> >> before
> >> Sao Paulo?
> >>
> >> > Chris and all,
> >> >
> >> >   I think it's great regarding your wiki.  And yes, anything from a
> >> > stakeholder and/or user created that is not officially inside the
> >> > ICANN structure has been and remains "invalid" as far as the
> >> > ICANN BoD, staff, ect. is considered.  Of course such an
> >> > attitude is illogical, and as such, nullifies ICANN's credibility
> >> > accordingly and seemingly ever more broadly.
> >> >
> >> > kidsearch wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I made a wiki. I'm considered invalid. No surprise. Anything created
> >> about
> >> > > or for discussion of new gTLDs the average user has always been
> >> > > invalid.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> >> > > http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>;
> >> > > <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address"
> >> > > <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:02 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements
> >> before
> >> > > Sao Paulo?
> >> > >
> >> > > > George and all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >   ICANN has NO credibility now and hasn't with the public or
> >> > > > registrants/stakeholders/users for a very long time. So it comes as
> >> > > > little or no great surprise to myself, our members, and any even
> >> > > > casual observer of the ICANN's BoD and staff that they again
> >> > > > are seeking to ignore their own bylaws as well as the stakeholders
> >> > > > they purport to serve.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > George Kirikos wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hello,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > According to the agenda for the November 22, 2006 Board meeting:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://www.icann.org/minutes/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > It includes the following items:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .BIZ Registry Agreement
> >> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .INFO Registry Agreement
> >> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .ORG Registry Agreement
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > This appears to ignore the GNSO Council resolution from
> >> > > > > September:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#200609
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "To request the Board to delay any decision on the .biz .info and
> >> .org
> >> > > > > agreements until the ICANN Board meeting after the Sao Paolo
> >> > > > > ICANN
> >> > > > > meetings 2006 and to take into account the current outcome of the
> >> > > > > PDPFeb06 task force at that time."
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > And as I noted in a prior message:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
> >> http://forum.icann.org/lists/revised-biz-info-org-agreements/msg00013.html
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > it ignores the Bylaws that mention "an in-person public forum
> >> > > > > shall
> >> > > > > also be held for discussion of any proposed policies as described
> >> > > > > in
> >> > > > > Section 6(1)(b) of this Article, prior to any final Board
> >> > > > > action."
> >> and
> >> > > > > that "in those cases where the policy action affects public
> >> > > > > policy
> >> > > > > concerns, to request the opinion of the Governmental Advisory
> >> > > > > Committee".
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Can the Board provide any good reason why they are rushing
> >> > > > > through
> >> > > > > approval of these badly conceived contracts, despite the
> >> overwhelming
> >> > > > > opposition of the public? This illustrates why folks are cynical
> >> about
> >> > > > > ICANN. Unless these contracts are defeated, to reflect the bottom
> >> > > > > up
> >> > > > > consensus, any remaining shred of credibility that ICANN's Board
> >> might
> >> > > > > have had will be lost.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Sincerely,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > George Kirikos
> >> > > > > http://www.kirikos.com/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> >> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
> >> > > > strong!)
> >> > > > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >> > > >    Abraham Lincoln
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> >> > > > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> >> > > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> >> > > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> >> > > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> >> > > > ===============================================================
> >> > > > Updated 1/26/04
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> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> >> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> >> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >> >
> >> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> >> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >> >
> >> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> >> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> >> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> >> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> >> > ===============================================================
> >> > Updated 1/26/04
> >> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> >> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> >> > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> >> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >  Registered Email addr with the USPS
> >> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >   Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Registered Email addr with the USPS
> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >
> >
> >
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> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827