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Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before Sao Paulo?
- To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before Sao Paulo?
- From: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:01:10 -0500
Just felt you were yelling. lol. I don't know the tecnicality you mentioned.
All I did was try to join and it let me. I know nothing more than that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
<vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements before
Sao Paulo?
Chris,
Yes. Yes. No. Several of thousand of our members did ask to join and
most never received a response, I myself was rejected on a membership
technicality in regards to membership policy issue that was not
documented,
and still isn't, hence my earlier ?'s to you.
Note: I write when using Email not "talk". I use caps for emphasis
only.
kidsearch wrote:
Have you tried? Can you talk without caps lock? Do you get my drift? Ask
them to let you join. They aren't expected to come and invite you I don't
believe.
Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
<vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements
before
Sao Paulo?
> Chris and all,
>
> So "YOU" could join. Well that's great, but only for "YOU",
> Chris. And what exactly has been FIXED for "YOU" to join?
> In addition is the "FIX" in only for certain individuals? Are
> you getting my drift here, Chris?
>
> kid search wrote:
>
>> Actually they fixed it so I could join. So lets keep an open mind.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>> <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>; <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>;
>> <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org agreements
>> before
>> Sao Paulo?
>>
>> > Chris and all,
>> >
>> > I think it's great regarding your wiki. And yes, anything from a
>> > stakeholder and/or user created that is not officially inside the
>> > ICANN structure has been and remains "invalid" as far as the
>> > ICANN BoD, staff, ect. is considered. Of course such an
>> > attitude is illogical, and as such, nullifies ICANN's credibility
>> > accordingly and seemingly ever more broadly.
>> >
>> > kidsearch wrote:
>> >
>> > > I made a wiki. I'm considered invalid. No surprise. Anything
>> > > created
>> about
>> > > or for discussion of new gTLDs the average user has always been
>> > > invalid.
>> > >
>> > > Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
>> > > http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>> > > <revised-biz-info-org-agreements@xxxxxxxxx>;
>> > > <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address"
>> > > <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:02 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board set to approve .biz/info/org
>> > > agreements
>> before
>> > > Sao Paulo?
>> > >
>> > > > George and all,
>> > > >
>> > > > ICANN has NO credibility now and hasn't with the public or
>> > > > registrants/stakeholders/users for a very long time. So it comes
>> > > > as
>> > > > little or no great surprise to myself, our members, and any even
>> > > > casual observer of the ICANN's BoD and staff that they again
>> > > > are seeking to ignore their own bylaws as well as the
>> > > > stakeholders
>> > > > they purport to serve.
>> > > >
>> > > > George Kirikos wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hello,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > According to the agenda for the November 22, 2006 Board
>> > > > > meeting:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.icann.org/minutes/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It includes the following items:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .BIZ Registry Agreement
>> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .INFO Registry Agreement
>> > > > > * Proposed Approval of new .ORG Registry Agreement
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This appears to ignore the GNSO Council resolution from
>> > > > > September:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#200609
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "To request the Board to delay any decision on the .biz .info
>> > > > > and
>> .org
>> > > > > agreements until the ICANN Board meeting after the Sao Paolo
>> > > > > ICANN
>> > > > > meetings 2006 and to take into account the current outcome of
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > PDPFeb06 task force at that time."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And as I noted in a prior message:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/revised-biz-info-org-agreements/msg00013.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > it ignores the Bylaws that mention "an in-person public forum
>> > > > > shall
>> > > > > also be held for discussion of any proposed policies as
>> > > > > described
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > Section 6(1)(b) of this Article, prior to any final Board
>> > > > > action."
>> and
>> > > > > that "in those cases where the policy action affects public
>> > > > > policy
>> > > > > concerns, to request the opinion of the Governmental Advisory
>> > > > > Committee".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Can the Board provide any good reason why they are rushing
>> > > > > through
>> > > > > approval of these badly conceived contracts, despite the
>> overwhelming
>> > > > > opposition of the public? This illustrates why folks are
>> > > > > cynical
>> about
>> > > > > ICANN. Unless these contracts are defeated, to reflect the
>> > > > > bottom
>> > > > > up
>> > > > > consensus, any remaining shred of credibility that ICANN's
>> > > > > Board
>> might
>> > > > > have had will be lost.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sincerely,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > George Kirikos
>> > > > > http://www.kirikos.com/
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
>> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
>> > > > strong!)
>> > > > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>> > > > Abraham Lincoln
>> > > >
>> > > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what
>> > > > is
>> > > > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>> > > >
>> > > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden,
>> > > > B;
>> > > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>> > > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
>> > > > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
>> > > > ===============================================================
>> > > > Updated 1/26/04
>> > > > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
>> > > > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
>> > > > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
>> > > > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Registered Email addr with the USPS
>> > > > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeffrey A. Williams
>> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
>> > strong!)
>> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>> > Abraham Lincoln
>> >
>> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
>> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>> >
>> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
>> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
>> > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
>> > ===============================================================
>> > Updated 1/26/04
>> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
>> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
>> > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
>> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Registered Email addr with the USPS
>> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
>> >
>> >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> Abraham Lincoln
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Registered Email addr with the USPS
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827
>
>
>
> --
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> 11/20/2006 6:48 AM
>
>
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
Abraham Lincoln
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827
--
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Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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11/20/2006 9:20 PM
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