Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] African statement

[Richard Tindal <richardtindal@xxxxxx>]

Got it,  and sorry I missed the call.

Has the African Statement produced additional agreed ideas (i.e.  concepts not 
previously in our report)?

RT


On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:

> We will not summarize the African statement. What I posted was its key points 
> that we have to discuss and include the agreed ideas among them in our 
> recommendations. I thought it was very clear, wasn’t it?
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> De : owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De la part de Richard Tindal
> Envoyé : mercredi 11 août 2010 22:17
> À : soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> Objet : Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] African statement
>  
> Are you proposing that we include the summary you posted here as the 'agreed 
> ideas'? --- http://forum.icann.org/lists/soac-newgtldapsup-wg/msg00391.html
>  
> If so, I think those ideas vary in a number of areas from our report.
>  
> If not,  what are we summarizing from the African letter as agreed ideas?
>  
> Thx
>  
> RT
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> On Aug 11, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard,
>  
> We will not endorse it, but we will be citing it and include the agreed ideas 
> in the body of our report. All the inputs will be included as annexes and our 
> recommendations will be written taking into account the agreed ideas coming 
> from those inputs.
>  
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De la part de Richard Tindal
> Envoyé : mercredi 11 août 2010 17:47
> À : soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> Objet : Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] African statement
>  
>  
> That makes sense.
>  
> Given that, are we also going to cite/ quote in the body of our report the 
> other inputs received?
>  
> RT
>  
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>  
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>  
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > I believe it is a citation of the inputs received, though i guess we could 
> > quote parts of it in the text.
> > 
> > I do not see it as our role to endorse it or not.  I also do not think that 
> > would fit into our charter.  I see it as input which is treated as input.
> > 
> > a.
> > 
> > On 11 Aug 2010, at 11:26, Richard Tindal wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Are we endorsing the African statement in our report, or are we merely 
> >> citing it and including some extracts of it in the body of our report?
> >> 
> >> RT
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 11 Aug 2010, at 15:00, Alex Gakuru wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Resolution 20 neither excluded nor favoured any region or community
> >>>> when requested "stakeholders to work through their SOs and ACs, and
> >>>> form a Working Group to develop a sustainable approach to providing
> >>>> support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and
> >>>> operating new gTLDs."  Tijani is only echoing the Africa region's
> >>>> request to ICANN.
> >>> 
> >>> Alex
> >>> 
> >>> I'm not disputing that
> >>> 
> >>> I am, however, disputing the inclusion of "entrepreneurs" who want to 
> >>> have TLDs as being covered by any plans for assistance etc., that may 
> >>> emerge from this group
> >>> 
> >>> I'm more than happy to support cultural, linguistic etc.,
> >>> 
> >>> Regards
> >>> 
> >>> Michele
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
> >>>> <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 11 Aug 2010, at 14:37, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> It’s the African Community point of view. They believe that for 
> >>>>>> applicants from countries where the market is not wide enough for a 
> >>>>>> reasonable profit making industry (like African countries) should be 
> >>>>>> helped to apply for gTLDs that they consider as a source of 
> >>>>>> development for their countries. They think the new gTLD program 
> >>>>>> inclusiveness, mentioned in the Board resolution 20 as a goal of this 
> >>>>>> action wouldn’t be achieved if those people are not supported.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Tijani
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I could just as easily argue that the Irish market was too small to 
> >>>>> support a TLD like .celt (just as a silly example) and that therefore 
> >>>>> ICANN needs to help me.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'd also look at the size of some of the African ccTLDs, such as co.za 
> >>>>> .. hardly a tiny ccTLD
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Michele
> >>>>> 
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> >>> 
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