Re : [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] WEBINAR - Joint Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)

[Alioune Traore <alioune_b_traore@xxxxxxxx>]

Merci Tijani!
 

Dr Alioune Badara TRAORE
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De : "tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxx" <tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxx>
À : 'Evan Leibovitch' <evan@xxxxxxxxx>; 'Stéphane Van Gelder' 
<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc : 'Krista Papac' <Krista.Papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr' 
<langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx>; 'Sébastien Bachollet' <sebastien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Envoyé le : Mercredi 14 Septembre 2011 8h55
Objet : RE: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] WEBINAR - Joint Applicant Support Working 
Group (JAS WG)


I don’t know how our criticism of the monolingual webinar could be understood 
as a criticism of the Staff who were wonderful, starting by Karla who gave a 
vital help to issue the first and the second milestone report, and then Seth 
and Rob who managed in the very thin slot of time to issue the final report, 
without forgetting the huge effort of Glen and Gisella making the logistic 
always available and in the best conditions.
 
I want to remind you that this WG was created as a follow-up of the Board 
resolution 20 that called for a WGto develop a sustainable approach to 
providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and 
operating new gTLDs, especially those from developing countries. The final aim 
is to make the new gTLD program inclusive.
So this work is for needy applicants, especially those from developing 
countries whose mother tongue is not English.
Inclusiveness can’t be achieved using English only, and the target beneficiary 
of this work are excluded when we use English only. I hope you understand now 
why we consider a multilingual Webinar as a necessity, not a luxury thing. No 
thing to do with the staff that I (and all the group I guess) thank very much.
 
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De :owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De la part de Evan Leibovitch
Envoyé : mardi 13 septembre 2011 16:41
À : Stéphane Van Gelder
Cc : Krista Papac; Cheryl Langdon-Orr; Sébastien Bachollet; 
SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] WEBINAR - Joint Applicant Support Working 
Group (JAS WG)
 
No, it's not a criticism of the policy and support staff who have been working 
tirelessly to make the JAS report happen. All deserve our thanks, with notable 
mention to Rob and Seth.

However, it is absolutely fair game criticism of whoever decided to limit the 
available funding such that multi-lingual briefings could not be done. And 
whoever made *that* decision to starve resources is likely someone on staff, 
though likely someone further up the food chain than those mentioned above who 
have been working with us directly.

Of all the major TLD-related issues that need to be presented to a global 
audience in multiple languages, support for developing countries is amongst the 
most worthy. A large proportion of the audience that would be affected by this 
effort are not primarily English speaking, more than half the countries in 
Africa don't even have English as a minority language. Denying them access to 
this information (and potential feedback) is a serious accountability / 
transparency breach which goes against the wishes of the community, and for 
which ICANN should be held responsible.

It's bad enough the calls themselves couldn't be multi-lingual; denying the 
facility to a summary briefing is inexcusable.


Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
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Tw: el56



On 13 September 2011 10:53, Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
FWIW, although I understand Olivier's point, I think it's important to point 
out that Staff has worked very hard on both supporting the JAS group in general 
and on organizing this seminar in particular.
 
This Staff support is really the ICANN community as a whole showing support for 
the work being done here.
 
Also, my understanding is that the seminar is aimed at explaining the final 
report to those community members that make up the JAS WG's chartering 
organizations.
 
So even though yes, in an ideal world, it would be better to have a 
multi-lingual webinar, it may have been too complex or expensive to organize 
this on relatively short notice, for a webinar that is targeted at a 
well-defined audience (this is an assumption on my part, Staff may wish to 
correct that assumption if this was in fact not the case).
 
Just pointing this out because I think we should make sure that comments such 
as these are not interpreted as criticism of Staff and the way the ICANN 
Community in general has considered the topic of applicant support, because I 
know that's not how they were meant.
 
Thanks,
 
Stéphane
 
 
 
Le 13 sept. 2011 à 16:37, Krista Papac a écrit :



I also agree Olivier’s point.
 
Krista Papac
Chief Strategy Officer
AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd
Email: krista.papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: www.ausregistry.com
 
From: owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On
 Behalf Of Cheryl Langdon-Orr
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:32 AM
To: Sébastien Bachollet
Cc: SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] WEBINAR - Joint Applicant Support Working 
Group (JAS WG)
 
 ++1 agreed  opportunity lost  IMO

 
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
(CLO)


On 14 September 2011 00:26, Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1
 
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De : owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De
 la part de Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
Envoyé : mardi 13 septembre 2011 07:19
À : Glen de Saint Géry
Cc : SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] WEBINAR - Joint Applicant Support Working 
Group (JAS WG)
 


On 12/09/2011 16:20, Glen de Saint Géry wrote :
The webinar will take place on September 19th at 12.00 UTC and 22.00 UTC The 
two sessions are duplicates, scheduled to accommodate different time zones. The 
recording will be made available shortly after Sept 19 for the community 
members that are not able to attend any of the scheduled times. Each session, 
scheduled to run for 90 minutes, will be conducted in English only. The meeting 
will be run in Adobe Connect with a slide presentation along with a dial-in 
conference bridge for audio.

May I just note my personal disappointment that no interpretation will be 
available on this call.

The JAS report is being translated to Spanish and French. It is a *core* 
constituent ICANN's future new gTLD application programme. The support 
programme will benefit applicants in Spanish and English speaking countries, 
yet the webinar will only be held in English? Please consider interpretation.
Kind regards,

Olivier
(my own views)
-- 
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
 
http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
 
 
 
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