RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meetingly

[Victoria McEvedy <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>]

There has been repeated objection to the application of any proposed standard 
rules to Policy committees ---but no reasons for this have been articulated and 
I for one do not support their exclusion. They lie at the heart of the work of 
the Groups.





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From: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: 06 April 2010 14:33
To: Rafik Dammak; Claudio Di Gangi
Cc: Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meetingly



It may be helpful to realize that the concept of Executive Committees is now 
embedded in all the SG charters so there is a particularly significant role for 
these committees. Also, the concept of Executive Committees was not previously 
built in to the Constituency concept except indiviudally by some constituencies 
so the BGC probably didn't directly focus on these committees when recommending 
term limits.



With that understanding, a reasonable compromise might be to apply term limits 
to Constituency/SG officers, Executive Committees and Council Representatives 
and recommend them as a best practice for other committees and subgroups.



Chuck



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   From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:56 AM
   To: Claudio Di Gangi
   Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
   Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting

   Hi Claudio,



   I am in favor of more strong wording, best practice looks really optional 
and I am afraid that there won't be willingness to apply it in groups.

   for policy committees, they should be temporary by their nature if my 
understanding is correct.

   to apply term limit has to be applied for executive committees.



   Regards



   Rafik



   2010/4/6 Claudio Di Gangi <cdigangi@xxxxxxxx<mailto:cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>>

   Rafik,

   thanks, i appreciate your response.

   would you recommend the best practice for term limits apply only to the 
group's executive committee or to which group committees?

   under what basis is that distinction made?

   claudio

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   From: Rafik Dammak [rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>]
   Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:40 PM

   To: Claudio Di Gangi
   Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
   Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting

   Thanks Claudio for your explanation, but I think that we need to improve the 
current situation and recommend common best practices. I may understand that 
few constituencies can face problem to have people volunteering (even if I have 
real doubts about those facts), I think that those constituencies have to work 
internally to improve the situation and not asking for lowering standards.
   I am not sure how the WT will handle that point, but I am clearly not in 
favor of what you suggest.
   @Olga @Michael I think that we need to make decision about this point and 
not block the on going review of the rest of document because the tight 
schedule  we have

   Regards

   Rafik

   2010/4/2 Claudio Di Gangi 
<cdigangi@xxxxxxxx<mailto:cdigangi@xxxxxxxx><mailto:cdigangi@xxxxxxxx<mailto:cdigangi@xxxxxxxx>>>

   Rafik,

   Just to further expand on my last reply to you:

   In light of the complexities of the issues that fall under ICANN's remit, it 
may be necessary or of great value to a Group to have a volunteer serve on the 
executive committee or policy committee for several consecutive terms before 
they have enough experience and knowledge etc. to serve as Chair or in another 
similar leadership position. That is if the Group is fortunate enough to have 
such volunteers who are willing and able to dedicate the time and energy 
necessary to serve in these positions in the first instance.

   No matter how representative a group may be of its community, one cannot 
assume that there will be endless pool of willing volunteers to serve in these 
positions. On the contrary, what likely matters more is what community or 
interest is being represented by these Groups and how directly or indirectly 
ICANN's policies impact them. Each group represents significantly varying 
interests that are impacted by ICANN's policies is a markedly different way, so 
this directly impacts participation. Therefore rules restricting participation 
on committees can impact Groups very unequally, and this is separate and aside 
from the issue of representativeness.

   Therefore, I believe we need to thread very carefully here. We have agreed 
to establishing term limits for constituency officers, which implements the BGC 
recommendation we were tasked with addressing. If groups want to expand term 
limits to other areas of their operations based on their specifics, that is of 
course something they are always able to do through their charters. If it's an 
issue our work team feels very strongly about, then I suggest we consider 
including it as a best practice.

   Hope this was helpful.

   claudio

   From: Rafik Dammak 
[mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>>]

   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 3:36 AM
   To: Claudio Di Gangi
   Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Julie Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg
   Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 26 March 2010 Meeting

   Hi Claudio,
   I am confused about your suggestion as the limit will be meaningless if it 
is not applied to executive committee.
   if there is fears about volunteering, that issue is more linked to 
representativeness level of Group.
    "but I would not extend the term limit to policy and executive committees. 
This is consistent with the BGC recommendation which we are tasked with 
implementing, which states: ""There should be term limits for constituency 
officers, so as to help attract new members and provide everyone with the 
chance to participate in leadership positions."
    and after the effort done for II.8 I am not in favor of deletion.
   Regards

   Rafik





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