RE: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

["Shatan, Gregory S." <GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree that the question should be cleaned up rather than deleted.

From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne [mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

We can delete the question, but it won't stop the WG from asking it.  It is at 
the heart of the reason for the WG's existence.

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[mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter
For crying out loud, let's just delete the darn question!

Tim


On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Shatan, Gregory S." 
<GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I have to object as well, for the reasons stated in my prior email, which was 
circulated to the group prior to Holly’s executive decision.  I don’t think 
this question should be in the charter as it currently stands.  It is far too 
broad and ambiguous and extends well beyond the remit of the WG.
I would prefer to work this out on the list, so that I can stand behind the 
charter as drafted
Greg
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Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter
I am troubled by the fact that this executive decision about wording was made 
barely 18 hours after the last call and well before the “23.59 UTC on Tuesday 2 
July. “ set forth in Marika’s email.
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[mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Holly Raiche
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter
Hi Everyone
In the interests of my sleep, I am making an executive decision to adopt 
Chuck's wording of question 4 (based on the reasoning that has been expressed), 
as follows:
Under what circumstances, if any, may  the GNSO Council make recommendations or 
state positions to the Board as a representative of the GNSO as a whole?
The other suggestion I will accept is the suggestion to amend the motion (made 
by Chuck) giving a time line of 7 days for a response.
Marika - would you please make those two changes.
That done, we still do not need the next call (and I can sleep)
Thanks
Holly
On 02/07/2013, at 10:54 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

The reason I added the last qualification is because of what Mikey said in his 
response to my suggested wording:  The Board is in the habit of asking the GNSO 
Council for advice with a short deadline and then treating it as a broader GNSO 
position.  I think that is inappropriate on the part of the Board but the 
reality is that it happens.

At the same, time I wouldn't object if that qualifier was deleted as Wolf 
suggests.

Chuck

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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter


Good morning!

I'm fine with Chuck's rewording except for the last part "... as a 
representative of the GNSO as a whole?".

I'm convinced that a discussion about the role of the council vs (and of) the 
GNSO is necessary and urgent but I wonder whether this debate may overload the 
WG mandate.
It should definitely be discussed during the coming GNSO review.

My suggestion to question 4: "Under what circumstances, if any, may  the GNSO 
Council make recommendations or state positions to the Board?"

Nevertheless I would join any wording which makes early mornings in Down Under 
more convenient :-)

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich



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From: Holly Raiche
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Cc: Marika Konings
Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

Folks

If there is one thing I do NOT want to do, it is have another 5.00am meeting in 
two days time (particularly since I have a 1.00am call that morning!)

SOOooo

From what I have gathered from the emails, there are really only two changes to 
the charter that Marika sent out (and thank you Marika for the very quick turn 
around)

The first is really wording - first spotted by Eduardo and then cleaned up a bit

The other was question 4 - and from the emails, I think people are happy to go 
with ChucK's rewording of it.

I have incorporated those changes only into a clean copy - and what I want from 
everyone is either confirmation that this is what can go forward, or not (and 
if not, please, what do you want changed - with proposed wording - and why)  
Otherwise, if I don't hear from you, this is what we proceed with

And thank you one and all for your time, diligence and patience

Holly












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