Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

[Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Exactly, that's why it doesn't really need to be asked.

Tim


On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:40 AM, "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" 
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We can delete the question, but it won't stop the WG from asking it.  It is at 
the heart of the reason for the WG's existence.

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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

For crying out loud, let's just delete the darn question!

Tim


On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:31 AM, "Shatan, Gregory S." 
<GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

I have to object as well, for the reasons stated in my prior email, which was 
circulated to the group prior to Holly’s executive decision.  I don’t think 
this question should be in the charter as it currently stands.  It is far too 
broad and ambiguous and extends well beyond the remit of the WG.
I would prefer to work this out on the list, so that I can stand behind the 
charter as drafted
Greg
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Subject: RE: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter
I am troubled by the fact that this executive decision about wording was made 
barely 18 hours after the last call and well before the “23.59 UTC on Tuesday 2 
July. “ set forth in Marika’s email.
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[mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Holly Raiche
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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter
Hi Everyone
In the interests of my sleep, I am making an executive decision to adopt 
Chuck's wording of question 4 (based on the reasoning that has been expressed), 
as follows:
Under what circumstances, if any, may  the GNSO Council make recommendations or 
state positions to the Board as a representative of the GNSO as a whole?
The other suggestion I will accept is the suggestion to amend the motion (made 
by Chuck) giving a time line of 7 days for a response.
Marika - would you please make those two changes.
That done, we still do not need the next call (and I can sleep)
Thanks
Holly
On 02/07/2013, at 10:54 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

The reason I added the last qualification is because of what Mikey said in his 
response to my suggested wording:  The Board is in the habit of asking the GNSO 
Council for advice with a short deadline and then treating it as a broader GNSO 
position.  I think that is inappropriate on the part of the Board but the 
reality is that it happens.

At the same, time I wouldn't object if that qualifier was deleted as Wolf 
suggests.

Chuck

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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter


Good morning!

I'm fine with Chuck's rewording except for the last part "... as a 
representative of the GNSO as a whole?".

I'm convinced that a discussion about the role of the council vs (and of) the 
GNSO is necessary and urgent but I wonder whether this debate may overload the 
WG mandate.
It should definitely be discussed during the coming GNSO review.

My suggestion to question 4: "Under what circumstances, if any, may  the GNSO 
Council make recommendations or state positions to the Board?"

Nevertheless I would join any wording which makes early mornings in Down Under 
more convenient :-)

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich



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Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-dt] For final review - proposed WG Charter

Folks

If there is one thing I do NOT want to do, it is have another 5.00am meeting in 
two days time (particularly since I have a 1.00am call that morning!)

SOOooo

>From what I have gathered from the emails, there are really only two changes 
>to the charter that Marika sent out (and thank you Marika for the very quick 
>turn around)

The first is really wording - first spotted by Eduardo and then cleaned up a bit

The other was question 4 - and from the emails, I think people are happy to go 
with ChucK's rewording of it.

I have incorporated those changes only into a clean copy - and what I want from 
everyone is either confirmation that this is what can go forward, or not (and 
if not, please, what do you want changed - with proposed wording - and why)  
Otherwise, if I don't hear from you, this is what we proceed with

And thank you one and all for your time, diligence and patience

Holly











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