Re: [gnso-ppsc] CALL FOR CONSENSUS: Revised Final GNSO Working Group Guidelines

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Dear Stéphane

What I was trying to say was that I thought you were a full member not an 
observer.  I was not suggesting your departure.

I was not refering to the leadership of the OSC and PPSC - which was temporary, 
but rather to its membership.  Which I fairly clearly remember as including the 
chair (or the v-chair) as a full member.

a.



On 14 Dec 2010, at 09:54, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:

> 
> Hi Avri,
> 
> My understanding is that the charter item you are referencing was put there 
> to give the SC some leadership at start-up. So the Council leaders took that 
> responsibility until the SC was able to appoint its own leadership.
> 
> This has since been done both for the OSC and the PPSC.
> 

> As such, I do not see a problem with the Council chair being an observer to 
> this SC. But I am happy to be completely removed from the PPSC mailing list 
> if that is what the group desires.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 14 déc. 2010 à 15:39, Avri Doria a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Stéphane,
>> 
>> In so far as I understand the PPSC's setup, as far as the PPSc is concerned, 
>> the chair/v-chair is not designated as a observer. 
>> 
>> https://st.icann.org/icann-ppsc/index.cgi?ppsc_charter
>> 
>>> Initially, the PPSC will be comprised of the following members:
>>> 
>>>     • GNSO council chair or vice chair
>>>     • 1 representative from each constituency (need not be a Council member)
>>>     • 1 Nominating Committee appointee to the GNSO
>>> 
>> 
>> Since both of your v-chairs are members in their own right, unless either 
>> the RySG and the NCA decide on new reps, I am not sure who can take your 
>> place.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> a.
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Dec 2010, at 05:24, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeff,
>>> 
>>> The members list should be updated as far as Chuck and myself are concerned.
>>> 
>>> It is customary for the Council Chair to be included in all WG email list 
>>> as an observer. I should therefore be listed as an observer in my capacity 
>>> as Chair. As an observer, I am not to be considered an active member of 
>>> this group. This means, for example, that the group should not seek my 
>>> opinion when calling for consensus on a report.
>>> 
>>> The VCs may be listed as alternate. Jeff, as you are one of the Council VCs 
>>> and Chair of the PPSC, and as Olga is already a member of the PPSC, I 
>>> suggest that in this case the PPSC do not list an alternate for GNSO 
>>> Council representation.
>>> 
>>> Please check with Chuck directly if he would like to stay on the PPSC as 
>>> either RySG rep or as an individual.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Stéphane
>>> 
>>> Le 13 déc. 2010 à 18:02, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> Please find enclosed the final clean Working Group Work Team Final Report 
>>>> (and redline) that incorporates all of the changes agreed to by the PPSC.  
>>>> There have been some updates to the background section to reflect the 
>>>> current state of the document.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to have affirmative responses from one person from each of 
>>>> the constituencies/stakeholder groups of the PPSC by no later than 
>>>> December 20th, 2010 to the following questions:
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Do you accept this report to be final and ready to be transmitted to 
>>>> the GNSO Council?
>>>> 2.  Do you believe we should recommend to the GNSO Council that they 
>>>> commence a public comment period prior to acting on the recommendations 
>>>> contained within the report?
>>>> 
>>>> Although the ALAC does not have a formal “vote”, I still would like to 
>>>> note the view of the ALAC representative to the Council when communicating 
>>>> the report.  Below is a list of members.  As I am the Registry 
>>>> representative, and also the Chair, I would normally delegate the “vote” 
>>>> to my alternate.  Unfortunately, my alternate is no longer active.  I will 
>>>> therefore see advice from our registry rep on the Working Group work team 
>>>> (Caroline Greer) and make sure she is comfortable in communicating the 
>>>> registry response.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Current Members (updated 18 March 2010):
>>>> Organization
>>>> Primary
>>>> Alternate
>>>> Other
>>>> BC
>>>> Mike Rodenbaugh
>>>> Zahid Jamil
>>>> 
>>>> IPC
>>>> J. Scott Evans (alternate Chair)
>>>> Steve Metalitz
>>>> 
>>>> ISPC
>>>> Tony Harris
>>>> Tony Holmes
>>>> 
>>>> NCSG
>>>> Gabriel Pineiro
>>>> Konstantinos Komaitis
>>>> Avri Doria
>>>> RySG
>>>> Jeff Neuman (Chair)
>>>> Catherine Sigmar
>>>> 
>>>> RrSG
>>>> Tim Ruiz
>>>> Tom Keller
>>>> 
>>>> NCA
>>>> Olga Cavalli (GNSO Council Vice-Chair)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> GNSO Council
>>>> Chuck Gomes (GNSO Council Chair)
>>>> Stephane van Gelder (GNSO Council Vice-Chair)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Other Participants in the PPSC:
>>>> Liaison
>>>> Primary
>>>> Alternate
>>>> ALAC
>>>> Alan Greenberg
>>>> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
>>>> GAC
>>>> Bertrand de la Chappelle
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> <GNSO_WG_Guideline_Revised_Final_Clean_10 December 
>>>> 2010.doc><GNSO_WG_Guideline_Revised_Final_Redline_10 December 2010.doc>
>>> 
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