RE: [gnso-ppsc] CALL FOR CONSENSUS: Revised Final GNSO Working Group Guidelines

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think I remember it that way as well.  I chose personally not to be active 
and only participated selectively.

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:08 AM
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder
> Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc] CALL FOR CONSENSUS: Revised Final GNSO Working
> Group Guidelines
> 
> 
> Dear Stéphane
> 
> What I was trying to say was that I thought you were a full member not
> an observer.  I was not suggesting your departure.
> 
> I was not refering to the leadership of the OSC and PPSC - which was
> temporary, but rather to its membership.  Which I fairly clearly
> remember as including the chair (or the v-chair) as a full member.
> 
> a.
> 
> 
> 
> On 14 Dec 2010, at 09:54, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi Avri,
> >
> > My understanding is that the charter item you are referencing was put
> there to give the SC some leadership at start-up. So the Council
> leaders took that responsibility until the SC was able to appoint its
> own leadership.
> >
> > This has since been done both for the OSC and the PPSC.
> >
> 
> > As such, I do not see a problem with the Council chair being an
> observer to this SC. But I am happy to be completely removed from the
> PPSC mailing list if that is what the group desires.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stéphane
> >
> > Le 14 déc. 2010 à 15:39, Avri Doria a écrit :
> >
> >> Hi Stéphane,
> >>
> >> In so far as I understand the PPSC's setup, as far as the PPSc is
> concerned, the chair/v-chair is not designated as a observer.
> >>
> >> https://st.icann.org/icann-ppsc/index.cgi?ppsc_charter
> >>
> >>> Initially, the PPSC will be comprised of the following members:
> >>>
> >>>   * GNSO council chair or vice chair
> >>>   * 1 representative from each constituency (need not be a Council
> member)
> >>>   * 1 Nominating Committee appointee to the GNSO
> >>>
> >>
> >> Since both of your v-chairs are members in their own right, unless
> either the RySG and the NCA decide on new reps, I am not sure who can
> take your place.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> a.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 Dec 2010, at 05:24, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jeff,
> >>>
> >>> The members list should be updated as far as Chuck and myself are
> concerned.
> >>>
> >>> It is customary for the Council Chair to be included in all WG
> email list as an observer. I should therefore be listed as an observer
> in my capacity as Chair. As an observer, I am not to be considered an
> active member of this group. This means, for example, that the group
> should not seek my opinion when calling for consensus on a report.
> >>>
> >>> The VCs may be listed as alternate. Jeff, as you are one of the
> Council VCs and Chair of the PPSC, and as Olga is already a member of
> the PPSC, I suggest that in this case the PPSC do not list an alternate
> for GNSO Council representation.
> >>>
> >>> Please check with Chuck directly if he would like to stay on the
> PPSC as either RySG rep or as an individual.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Stéphane
> >>>
> >>> Le 13 déc. 2010 à 18:02, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please find enclosed the final clean Working Group Work Team Final
> Report (and redline) that incorporates all of the changes agreed to by
> the PPSC.  There have been some updates to the background section to
> reflect the current state of the document.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to have affirmative responses from one person from
> each of the constituencies/stakeholder groups of the PPSC by no later
> than December 20th, 2010 to the following questions:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.  Do you accept this report to be final and ready to be
> transmitted to the GNSO Council?
> >>>> 2.  Do you believe we should recommend to the GNSO Council that
> they commence a public comment period prior to acting on the
> recommendations contained within the report?
> >>>>
> >>>> Although the ALAC does not have a formal "vote", I still would
> like to note the view of the ALAC representative to the Council when
> communicating the report.  Below is a list of members.  As I am the
> Registry representative, and also the Chair, I would normally delegate
> the "vote" to my alternate.  Unfortunately, my alternate is no longer
> active.  I will therefore see advice from our registry rep on the
> Working Group work team (Caroline Greer) and make sure she is
> comfortable in communicating the registry response.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Current Members (updated 18 March 2010):
> >>>> Organization
> >>>> Primary
> >>>> Alternate
> >>>> Other
> >>>> BC
> >>>> Mike Rodenbaugh
> >>>> Zahid Jamil
> >>>>
> >>>> IPC
> >>>> J. Scott Evans (alternate Chair)
> >>>> Steve Metalitz
> >>>>
> >>>> ISPC
> >>>> Tony Harris
> >>>> Tony Holmes
> >>>>
> >>>> NCSG
> >>>> Gabriel Pineiro
> >>>> Konstantinos Komaitis
> >>>> Avri Doria
> >>>> RySG
> >>>> Jeff Neuman (Chair)
> >>>> Catherine Sigmar
> >>>>
> >>>> RrSG
> >>>> Tim Ruiz
> >>>> Tom Keller
> >>>>
> >>>> NCA
> >>>> Olga Cavalli (GNSO Council Vice-Chair)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> GNSO Council
> >>>> Chuck Gomes (GNSO Council Chair)
> >>>> Stephane van Gelder (GNSO Council Vice-Chair)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Other Participants in the PPSC:
> >>>> Liaison
> >>>> Primary
> >>>> Alternate
> >>>> ALAC
> >>>> Alan Greenberg
> >>>> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
> >>>> GAC
> >>>> Bertrand de la Chappelle
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
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> >>>>
> >>>> <GNSO_WG_Guideline_Revised_Final_Clean_10 December
> 2010.doc><GNSO_WG_Guideline_Revised_Final_Redline_10 December 2010.doc>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>