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RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo and diversity by-law

  • To: "Liz Williams" <lizawilliams@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo and diversity by-law
  • From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:00:24 -0400

Thanks Liz.  I like the concept of 'skills diversity' but also think
that 'interest group' (constituency/sector/whatever) diversity is also
important.
 
Chuck


________________________________

        From: Liz Williams [mailto:lizawilliams@xxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:25 AM
        To: Gomes, Chuck
        Cc: gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo and diversity by-law
        
        
        Hello everyone 

        Another way of looking at this is that the Council needs a
variety of skills to help it work properly.  That doesn't come from
sectors or regions or geographic locations.  From a Nominating Committee
perspective, I would look at the aggregate of the group; identify gaps
and then seek to fill them with a skill set that is balanced across the
group.  Not a perfect science and a shifting evaluation each year.

        I would leave out reference to sectors  but incorporate some
language about the value of skills diversity.  This is what is done on
all well run boards and it should be done here as well.

        Liz
        
        
        ...

        Liz Williams
        +44 1963 364 380
        +44 7824 877 757



        On 2 Jun 2009, at 22:37, Gomes, Chuck wrote:



                Is there a more general term instead of 'sectoral' that
would be more
                encompassing?

                Chuck


                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Nevett, Jonathon
[mailto:jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:48 PM
                        To: Gomes, Chuck; Milton L Mueller; Philip
Sheppard; 
                        gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo and
diversity by-law

                        Thanks Chuck.

                        I would be in favor of an aspirational statement
encouraging 
                        the SGs to take various forms of diversity into
account in 
                        selecting their representatives -- other than
just 
                        geographic.  If we go in that direction, we
shouldn't just 
                        mention sectoral diversity, as opposed to other
forms of 
                        diversity (e.g. racial, ethnic, gender etc. --
all of which 
                        has been lacking in the GNSO).  

                        I am concerned with a requirement in the Bylaws
that we 
                        "ensure [both geographic and sectoral diversity]
. . . as 
                        appropriate."  When is it appropriate to have
sectoral 
                        diversity and when wouldn't it be appropriate?
How should 
                        the SGs react to the "as appropriate" language?


                        With just three seats, it is difficult to
implement the 
                        three-seat requirement for geographic diversity.
I am very 
                        concerned about going beyond that with
additional specific 
                        diversity requirements.  Again, I am in favor of
a statement 
                        encouraging various other forms of diversity,
                        just not requiring it.   

                        Thanks.

                        Jon

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
                        Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:21 PM
                        To: Nevett, Jonathon; Milton L Mueller; Philip
Sheppard; 
                        gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo and
diversity by-law

                        I understand your point Jon but I like having it
there to at 
                        least make the point that geographic diversity
should not be 
                        considered to the exclusion of other types of
diversity that 
                        are also important.

                        Chuck 


                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Nevett, Jonathon
[mailto:jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                                Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:11 PM
                                To: Gomes, Chuck; Milton L Mueller;
Philip Sheppard; 
                                gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo
and diversity by-law

                                Thanks Chuck.

                                Personally, I support deleting the
reference to sectoral 

                        diversity in 

                                the draft provision.  It should be up to
each Stakeholder Group to 
                                have that requirement in their charters
if applicable. 

                        Having the "as 

                                appropriate" language in the first
sentence provides next to no 
                                guidance to the SG on how to implement,
so it's better to delete.

                                Thanks.

                                Jon

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
                                Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:02 PM
                                To: Nevett, Jonathon; Milton L Mueller;
Philip Sheppard; 
                                gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo
and diversity by-law

                                Jon,

                                Philip first suggested this term.  One
element of it has to do with 
                                industry sectors.  So for example, in
the CSG there are different 
                                sectors such as the financial sector,
the e-commerce 

                        sector, etc.  For 

                                the RySG, I translate it to mean sectors
like city gTLDs, sponsored 
                                gTLDs, open gTLDs, community gTLDs etc.
While recgonizing 

                        that it is 

                                very difficult to measure (in contrast
to geographical 

                        diversity), the 

                                intent was to emphasize that
geographical diversity is just 

                        one area 

                                of diversity that should be considered
even though geographic 
                                diversity has special importance.

                                Chuck


                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx 
                                [mailto:owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of

                                Nevett, Jonathon

                                Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:51 PM
                                To: Milton L Mueller; Philip Sheppard;
gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo
and diversity by-law


                                Milton/Chuck/Olga:

                                I have one question about the proposed
language.  What is

                                the meaning

                                and the intent behind the requirement of
being 

                        "sectorally" diverse?

                                Other than the one reference to sectoral
diversity in the first 
                                sentence, the rest of the provision only
seems to relate to

                                geographic

                                diversity.

                                Thanks.

                                Jon

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx 
                                [mailto:owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of

                                Milton L Mueller

                                Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:08 AM
                                To: Philip Sheppard;
gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo
and diversity by-law


                                Actually three of us (Chuck, myself and
Olga) agreed on the

                                following

                                formulation:

                                "Stakeholder Groups should ensure their
representation on 

                        the GNSO 

                                Council is both geographically and
sectorally diverse as

                                appropriate.

                                If the number of allocated Council seats
for a 

                        Stakeholder Group is 

                                less than the number of ICANN geographic
regions, the 

                        applicable SG 

                                should select Councilors who are each
from different geographic 
                                regions.  If the number of allocated
Council seats for a

                                Stakeholder

                                Group is greater than or equal to the
number of ICANN geographic 
                                regions, the applicable SG should select
at least one

                                Councilor from

                                each geographic region.  In all cases no
more than two 

                        Stakeholder 

                                Group Council representatives may be
from the same ICANN 

                        geographic 

                                region; any exception to this
requirement must be 

                        approved by a 2/3 

                                vote of both houses."

                                Philip did not express opposition to
this directly,

                                although I judge

                                from his comments now that he does not
support it.
                                Anyway, the formulation above is
acceptable to the 

                        supermajority of 

                                the GNSO.

                                --MM


                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx 

                        [mailto:owner-gnso-restruc- 

                                dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philip
Sheppard
                                Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:04 AM
                                To: gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 geo and
diversity by-law



                                Not sure if Q5 was discussed yesterday
but our small 

                        group did not

                                reach

                                agreement.
                                As a guide to what we are trying for the
following may help.

                                Background
                                - Today (and for the past 10  years)
constituencies have

                                managed to

                                find 3

                                reps
                                from 3 different regions.
                                - Tomorrow, the pool of potential reps
should in principle

                                be greater
                                for

                                all
                                constituencies.
                                - There are 3 variants of the
constituency to SG

                                transition: a) linear
                                for

                                the
                                R&Rs, b) a merger for Commercial users,
c) potential growth

                                for non-

                                commercial users.

                                Principles to be met in diversity rules
1. Diversity should

                                be both by

                                constituency and geography.
                                2. The BC (and the CSG) want the same
diversity rule for

                                each SG ie

                                one

                                independent of the number of
representatives.

                                ---------------------------------------
                                We would support any formulation that
meets these 2 principles.
                                (The BC does not seek less stringent
rules than today).

                                Philip











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