Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] the "it excludes some applicants" argument

["Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Milton,

a reprimand -- the use of the word "jihad" in this context, and directed so 
broadly, has triggered several responses to the co-chairs.  please note that 
the use of this kind of language can trigger very different reactions in a 
group like this and, it's safe to say, is pretty inflammatory under any 
circumstances.  it's also not a helpful contribution, especially at this late 
stage when the group is already feeling a fair amount of pressure after a very 
long hard effort to find middle ground.  please resist the urge to stir the 
waters this way.  

thanks,

mikey


On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:38 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

>  
> Milton, so we have you to thank for this :-).  
>  
> <evil laugh>
>  
> My recollection is that the registrars and registries on Council voted 
> against the NCSG motion to form a PDP in the first place because there was a 
> sense that the VI issue would not be "solved" via a PDP.  
>  
> I would frame it differently. Many registrars voted against a PDP because a 
> few of the more vocal ones thought they had negotiated private deals with 
> staff that would give them what they wanted. But none of them knew exactly 
> what staff would do ultimately. And none of them were able to demonstrate any 
> consensus around a specific solution. And we had a pretty serious jihad from 
> some of the registries (what is now the RACK group). While both NCSG and CSG 
> (I think, not intending to speak for them) felt that the issues had not been 
> properly aired.
>  
> Given all that, I saw no practical alternative to making an honest attempt to 
> arrive at an agreed policy through an open process that involves all the 
> stakeholder groups in direct discussions and negotiations. Do you?
>  
> The idea that we can punt policy making to staff and board has its appeal, I 
> know. But a more mature contemplation of its meaning tells us that the whole 
> model underlying ICANN is failing if we have to resort to that every time we 
> face a difficult issue.
>  

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